What other difficult games do you enjoy?

[Seal Enthusiast]

Dark souls obviously, but beyond that any other suggestions for other difficult games from various genres?

[sirkudjon]

Like Dark Souls? here it is:
Nioh Complete Edition
Nioh 2 Complete Edition
Wo Long Fallen Dynasty
Sekiro Shadows Die Twice
To name a few.
There is also two Lord of the Fallen games but I would not reccomend it.

[Yal]

Nioh 2 is probably the best non-FROM soulslike, late game you have a TON of build options and in the higher difficulties you unlock after beating the game you start to get remixed versions of the levels with new traps and enemy placement, I ended up going through all five of them just to see what the game'd throw at me next. Incredibly good value for money, if you wanna see EVERYTHING the game has to offer you'll have like 500 hours of playtime and it's all amazing. (Joining the covenant that rewards you with a higher cannon ammo cap is amazing for removing enemies you don't feel like dealing with)

Hellpoint has a really cool world design and vibe but it's got incredibly clunky gameplay, if you just want dark souls IN SPACE it might be worth a try though. Though Remnant 2's space world has kinda obsoleted it (R2 is also a good game but it's got issues with updates that take forever to install and waste tons of disk space with temporary files, it's bad enough that I uninstalled it outta frustration).

[Jnc]

Death Stranding no vehicle run/no piss mechanic run.
I haven't played many difficult games. Mibibli's quest was tough though.
If you want difficult games then try old NES games.

[Automaton-37467]

Garfileld kart

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by P3N15:

ER is the easiest Souls game to date.

Which is kinda hilarious considering Malenia is supposed to be the hardest Boss in the series. The easiest game has the hardest boss. x,D

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Originally posted by P3N15:

ER is the easiest Souls game to date.

Which is kinda hilarious considering Malenia is supposed to be the hardest Boss in the series. The easiest game has the hardest boss. x,D

Get there with blasphemous blade or bleed build, overlevelled with heavy armor and with mimic +10, I can see some people 1st try Malenia at RL 150+ or 180+ like that and following guides for OP builds.
Btw, every single Dark Souls game as Elden Ring allow coop allowing "watch summoned playe(s) beat the boss" difficulty so it can not get easier than that.
Sekiro is not hard with deflect being so lenient and working on 90% of the attacks and on top of that have skills and prosthetics that allow the game to become far easier (as if "never losing everything and never losing unspent Attack power or Vitality makes it super lenient, die as many times you want, all you lose is Sen if you did not purchase bags or did not spent it already.
From "always" leave tools to make the game as easy as the player want

[Cooperal]

Well you did say different genres. I am going to say XCOM Enemy Unknown and XCOM 2. Some of the best games in their class. Notoriously brutal turn-based combat with roguelite elements where you command a war effort against alien invaders/conquerors.

Playing in ironman mode (only 1 save slot that autosaves per turn) is the traditional way to enjoy them and XCOM 2 comes with one of the better steam workshop sections that I have seen.

If you are into racing games I might advise Dirt Rally 2.0. It is kind of like the Dark Souls of racing games. Their are not many games out there that can boast a technical rally driving experience in the way this game can. It really is a discipline because one wrong knock can ruin everything.

That guy that mentioned guitar hero and rock band. I share in his loss too. Extremely satisfying games to watch yourself good at. But sadly the PC alternatives come with a lot of compromises especially where production value is concerned.

Another game I would throw into the suggestion box would be Noita. It's a 2D platformer with more randomized roguelite elements. There are two equally impressive selling points this game has that you can't find just anywhere. Every pixel has its own simulated physics and interactions which can cause a ton of chaos. And it has this deeply experimental aspect where you can arrange spell effects into your wands to make all sorts of helpful, broken and chaotic things happen when you use them. But also it will kill you, a lot.

[Killer Beast 77]

Originally posted by Urist Microcline:

Originally posted by echo_ML:

Bg3, mainly on tactician and honour mode. It feels super rewarding understanding 5e's systems and bg3's pace of combat

Just cast fireball

just use lighting on sorcerer build or paladin smiting everything that sees in his way

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Cooperal:

Well you did say different genres. I am going to say XCOM Enemy Unknown and XCOM 2. Some of the best games in their class. Notoriously brutal turn-based combat with roguelite elements where you command a war effort against alien invaders/conquerors.

Playing in ironman mode (only 1 save slot that autosaves per turn) is the traditional way to enjoy them and XCOM 2 comes with one of the better steam workshop sections that I have seen.

If you are into racing games I might advise Dirt Rally 2.0. It is kind of like the Dark Souls of racing games. Their are not many games out there that can boast a technical rally driving experience in the way this game can. It really is a discipline because one wrong knock can ruin everything.

That guy that mentioned guitar hero and rock band. I share in his loss too. Extremely satisfying games to watch yourself good at. But sadly the PC alternatives come with a lot of compromises especially where production value is concerned.

Another game I would throw into the suggestion box would be Noita. It's a 2D platformer with more randomized roguelite elements. There are two equally impressive selling points this game has that you can't find just anywhere. Every pixel has its own simulated physics and interactions which can cause a ton of chaos. And it has this deeply experimental aspect where you can arrange spell effects into your wands to make all sorts of helpful, broken and chaotic things happen when you use them. But also it will kill you, a lot.

The vintage F1s at AMS2 are harder than Group B at DR 2.0, even more true at classic Imola circuit.

[Despiser]

Difficulty isn’t my top priority. I like exploring and finding cool gear. I then see what I can do against bosses with four talismans and weapons tailored to their weaknesses. That’s the wonderful thing about ER, you can carry everything in your inventory without penalty until you equip it.

[Anthreris]

Dying Light 1 on NG+ and Nightmare difficulty. Though it takes a while to unlock either if I'm remembering correctly, so most of the gameplay will probably be easy until these are unlocked.

Otherwise Sekiro, Bloodborne, The Witcher 2, and MechWarrior 2 on the survival mode (its been awhile though so its probably easier than I remember).

[Seal Enthusiast]

Originally posted by Gman:

Dying Light 1 on NG+ and Nightmare difficulty. Though it takes a while to unlock either if I'm remembering correctly, so most of the gameplay will probably be easy until these are unlocked.

Otherwise Sekiro, Bloodborne, The Witcher 2, and MechWarrior 2 on the survival mode (its been awhile though so its probably easier than I remember).

I was looking at the witcher 2 since it's heavily on sale. Is the gameplay good or just servicable?

[potato]

witcher 2 is really jank, great dialog/plot/narrative etc but the combat/gameplay isn't that good

[Anthreris]

Originally posted by Seal Enthusiast:

Originally posted by Gman:

Dying Light 1 on NG+ and Nightmare difficulty. Though it takes a while to unlock either if I'm remembering correctly, so most of the gameplay will probably be easy until these are unlocked.

Otherwise Sekiro, Bloodborne, The Witcher 2, and MechWarrior 2 on the survival mode (its been awhile though so its probably easier than I remember).

I was looking at the witcher 2 since it's heavily on sale. Is the gameplay good or just servicable?

Its good, with a bit of jank. I'm not really sure how to describe it. The controls are weird I guess, and sometimes getting swarmed pretty much means defeat unless your really good at the game. I'm just okay at it. I do know that you unlock some special weapon and armor recipes on the hardest difficulty though.

Sorry that I can't give a better description, I just remember dying easily, and only doing crazy amount of damage if I had the right build.

[Zogtar]

Originally posted by Norm Macdonald's Ghost:

Raid Shadow Legends.

I'm glad Adam Eget has you under control. Despite him causing 9/11.

Playing the original SAGA or Final Fantasy Legend on my switch. Nostalgia.