Promo vid said "Will go down in history as one of the all-time greats"

[Bill the Butcher]

I just started the game and I'm liking it but that's a really big statement to make. Do you all agree with that? If so, why? No spoilers please.

[Dragonirian]

In my opinion it's still unbeaten by any other game.

[Bill the Butcher]

Originally posted by Dragonirian:

In my opinion it's still unbeaten by any other game.

Can you tell me why? I'm not here to argue I'm genuinely interested.

[ressenmacher]

It doesn't seem unreasonable to me. ER was the bestselling game of the year in which it was released and easily the most popular game in a series which could be argued to have several all-time greats - DS1 was transformative to gaming on the whole, DES's remake was iirc the flagship PS5 title, and BB was held up as one of the best games on the PS4. The precedence for its place in that lineup seems solid to me.

In terms of its broad-scale impact I think the way it used difficulty to guide a player's progress and soft-gate content + the entirely gameplay-focused world will be influential, especially in the face of how people seem to be growing tired of waypoint-filled open worlds that pad their runtime with endless collectible quests. The game isn't perfect - I think the narrative is unusually weak even by the low Souls standard, and there's a lot of vestigial features which don't mesh very well with the transition to open world + growing pains (e.g. bloodstain mechanic, the multiplayer, MotG being too sparse in content, etc.). But overall I think they did an amazingly good job.

[Dragonirian]

Originally posted by Bill the Butcher:

Originally posted by Dragonirian:

In my opinion it's still unbeaten by any other game.

Can you tell me why? I'm not here to argue I'm genuinely interested.

I don't know how to properly describe this, but it's an actual game that you have to actively *play*.
It's not a sony movie game, it's not a glorified visual novel, it has no woke garbage in it and it has great level design with a pretty good open world. Combat is fun, boss fights are great and manage to be cinematic without resorting to cutscenes or qte's. Multiplayer adds a whole layer of gameplay.
There is just isn't anything like it on such a scale and in actually finished state.

[Norm Macdonald's Ghost]

Originally posted by Bill the Butcher:

Promo vid said "Will go down in history as one of the all-time greats"

Care to share this promo?

[Flame]

WARNING ALL SPOILERS






Okay well uhm you as a tarnished gets to explore the lands between and fight for your rightful thrown as Elden Lord... or... burn it all to the ground... or marry a witch... or curse all life and their children's children to eternal doom... I feel like I'm forgetting one here... well anyways, it's a dope story if you can figure out what the story is after at least 150+ hours (any shorter and you're not paying attention to the details such as that one person you feed human eyeballs too that thinks their grapes cause their blind.) any who XD enjoy!

[itssomuchfun]

It sure is one of the greatest video games ever made in my opinion.

[Senki]

Haven't seen that promo but if it does exist it's not wrong, it's the best game I've played so far

[Mythily]

This will likely be most of my review I'll soon post, but it applies to this post as well.

It's really not. It was the best game in 2022 but that year was overall just bad for triple A games. This game is good, not great. This comes from someone who doesn't skip content and that's how I'm able to back up the claims I'm about to make. Players who follow the "intended progression" will very likely not even notice this at all and finish the game in 30 hours or so.

The best way to describe it is "soulslike RPG with open world elements". Why open world elements? Its easy to notice. Almost every point of interest you go into is linear and eventually gets repetitive (eg. caves and catacombs) and has hostiles. No towns or cities that isn't filled with hostile mobs, that's not how an open world should be. Witcher 3 and Skyrim etc did this well in that regard.
The map is borderline useless. The only use it really has is fast travel and finding map pieces. It has zero value otherwise. Guess why most people follow the "trail"? Cuz it's just not good.
Quests I'm not even going to mention. Players who aren't familiar with how soulsborne games handles those will have a hard time and might not even notice when a NPC gives them a quest.

Graphics are all over the place as well. Almost every close up looks wrong. But that has been a trend in every soulslike I can remember from fromsoft. Using the same engine all the time is likely to blame for this.

I'm burnt out of the game after Leyndell capital, clocked 100 hours in this game (which means I explored almost every area before that). I've never had this happen before in any soulslike or open world before.

I play a high variety of games, so I think my judgement is solid. Rarely do I go over 200 hours in any game.

[Larco]

Um, no. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying it and there's a heck of a lot of it. But one of the all time greats? No. As action rpgs go, it's a pretty basic one. You just run round killing stuff. A lot of stuff. And the combat's surprisingly clunky for a hack and slash. This sort of thing's just been done better elsewhere. I'd see it as a solid 7/10 that's maybe elevated to an 8/10 simply because it offers so much content for your buck. Definitely worth getting though and absolutely worth playing.

[PJ]

Come back and tell us your opinion after the 6th time the game doubles in size.

[gFreak696]

"All-time greats" really doesn't mean anything since the bar for quality is so low these days.
That being said, it's fine at what it is, which is New Souls game.

[Sir T. Bagallot]

Originally posted by Larco:

Um, no. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying it and there's a heck of a lot of it. But one of the all time greats? No. As action rpgs go, it's a pretty basic one. You just run round killing stuff. A lot of stuff. And the combat's surprisingly clunky for a hack and slash. This sort of thing's just been done better elsewhere. I'd see it as a solid 7/10 that's maybe elevated to an 8/10 simply because it offers so much content for your buck. Definitely worth getting though and absolutely worth playing.

hmmm maybe its not a Hack and Slash Game at all XD

[vamirez]

Originally posted by Mythily:

This will likely be most of my review I'll soon post, but it applies to this post as well.

It's really not. It was the best game in 2022 but that year was overall just bad for triple A games. This game is good, not great. This comes from someone who doesn't skip content and that's how I'm able to back up the claims I'm about to make. Players who follow the "intended progression" will very likely not even notice this at all and finish the game in 30 hours or so.

The best way to describe it is "soulslike RPG with open world elements". Why open world elements? Its easy to notice. Almost every point of interest you go into is linear and eventually gets repetitive (eg. caves and catacombs) and has hostiles. No towns or cities that isn't filled with hostile mobs, that's not how an open world should be. Witcher 3 and Skyrim etc did this well in that regard.
The map is borderline useless. The only use it really has is fast travel and finding map pieces. It has zero value otherwise. Guess why most people follow the "trail"? Cuz it's just not good.
Quests I'm not even going to mention. Players who aren't familiar with how soulsborne games handles those will have a hard time and might not even notice when a NPC gives them a quest.

Graphics are all over the place as well. Almost every close up looks wrong. But that has been a trend in every soulslike I can remember from fromsoft. Using the same engine all the time is likely to blame for this.

I'm burnt out of the game after Leyndell capital, clocked 100 hours in this game (which means I explored almost every area before that). I've never had this happen before in any soulslike or open world before.

I play a high variety of games, so I think my judgement is solid. Rarely do I go over 200 hours in any game.

I think you need to play more games... smh...

[Sir T. Bagallot]

It is truely an all Time Classic from the Start i love the Souls Games, i love FS since Armored Core 4 :D I love the way FS tells a Story, when i was Jung i had an PS one From my Brother that was cracked to play burned CDs and i had 300 Japanese Titels that i could not understand as a Child but my Imagination would fill in the Gaps, and the way they tell a Story is based on Miazaki reading English Fantasie as a Child and filling the Gaps with his Fantasy :D. so its not full of High End Cutscenes but it it leaves it to you how much you wanna know about the Story, :D and there is so much Lore that People live of telling it on YouTube. It also does not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ your Screen with all kinds of Markers, it wants you to Explore its Beatyfull World and Respekts your intelligence by not guiding you throu every step like a Monkey. It Hides things behind Illusions that other Devs would make you pay DLC Prices for. And it is as Hard as you wanted to be cause the Build variaty is by far the biggest in any Souls Game, and you allwas can agro split the Boss if you are a ♥♥♥♥♥ with Summons. So its the Easyest Souls Game and it can be the Hardest to when you see the Blade of Miquella the first time XD i stoped Playing Video Games cause everything was ether warzone or some other retarded Battle pass ♥♥♥♥. I started Playing again cause FromSoftwere still speaks to the Child in me that wants to explore new worlds in his ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up Head.

So my final Stand on this is, its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Gift from the Gaming Gods