Starlight Shards

[Zerwaxle]

Been watching a lot of pvp on youtube. Most of the popular pvp'ers use these in invasions and Colosseum. Where do they get their unlimited supply from? Do they get them from other people? Is there a discord for free Starlight shards or anyone here giving one stacks of Starlight Shards?

[Dragonirian]

Originally posted by dromdead:

Originally posted by Dragonirian:

Not an excuse to cheat.

i farmed for 200 hour for a single build , getting all the weapon needed , consumable and everything i needed just to do 40 hour of pvp on it and delete it after because the build wasn't fun and i did not wanted to go trough more NG just to get the weapon i wanted.
And btw for people that don't have cheat they just save scum to get the consumable back , it's that easy.
like i said earlier , most people in PvP DO NOT CARE about PvEer ''that's cheating !!!! that's not balanced !!! Just farm it , it's a 1% or even lower drop chance so git gud!!!'' way of thinking , we just want to have fun and simply don't care !
You can call PvPer cheater for the most part , and it's true sometimes and i don't think you understand how people don't care about PvErs opinion.
Fun > farming for hours just to do 1 invasion.
And like someone mentioned earlier , in invasion you can die in just a second if you make even the smalest mistake just because it's a 1v3 and even against the least prepared host you can die because how the way the game works , you can call it skill issue and it is sometimes but for the most part it is because the balance favore the host and not the invader , meanig that if you want to have the best chance against the host and his summon you'll , yes you eared me , use everything you can but since that's basicly every single invasion , you start to less and less care about ''imma farm the item''.
And btw , glich are glich , cheats with infinite hp ,mp etc are cheats , droping yourself item ISNT that big of a deal compared to the things above as it DO have counterplay (git gud).
I'll tell you one thing , try in arena to use all of ur consumable against a oponent that simply keep attacking you (spoiler allert : you can't) so remember to try and make the difference between cheater , glicher and the other.

What were you farming 200 hours for?
5 rows of the same weapon with different infusions?

[ressenmacher]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

I meant that how the items themselves are balanced is the issue.

Such had being able to carry 99 Boluses, which severely hurts Poison or Rot builds.

Or being able to carry 10 Shards.

Or how limited some items are without cheese, compared to what they’re intended to counter.

And just the general balance of PvP which is a nightmare.

Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, I liked the DS3 version much better, where you could carry one Divine Blessing for those high moments in PvE where you risk it and win/lose big, but they honestly just have no place in PvP.

[purpl3 h4z3]

Originally posted by echo_ML:

Originally posted by purpl3 h4z3:

You can dump starlight shards you know... you just need to backup your save and a friend to help with it. Do this a couple of times and boom: lot of starlight shards. No mods or "cheats" required. Your welcome.

I mean thats still kinda cheating since its not an intended game feature but i mean yeah you're right

I guess you dont know what "cheating" means.

[echo_ML]

Originally posted by purpl3 h4z3:

Originally posted by echo_ML:

I mean thats still kinda cheating since its not an intended game feature but i mean yeah you're right

I guess you dont know what "cheating" means.

??????
Cheating is quite literally doing something in a way its not intended to be done to gain an adavantage

[DayLight1943]

i always make a point to keep starlight shard/dumpling use to a minimum or not at all when fighting pve'ers, and i have a lot of sympathy for those pvp'ers who really detest duping/spawning, but every single person including the game devs who think i need to farm for hours to cure rot or madness can eat my entire a$$hole. i will eat spawned in boluses all day every day and i will never feel bad about it even for a moment.

[echo_ML]

Originally posted by DayLight1943:

i always make a point to keep starlight shard/dumpling use to a minimum or not at all when fighting pve'ers, and i have a lot of sympathy for those pvp'ers who really detest duping/spawning, but every single person including the game devs who think i need to farm for hours to cure rot or madness can eat my entire a$$hole. i will eat spawned in boluses all day every day and i will never feel bad about it even for a moment.

Actually W take

[s̷h̷a̷d̷o̷w̷]

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

The purism espoused by those that don't PvP as seriously as others is going up against the stonewall cogency of serious PvPers who understand how/where their time is arbitrarily wasted. Effectively, this degrades the PvP-side of the community by pollution of opinions/discussion from non-PvPers.

I do PVP and PVE. Still don't see the need for cheating, nor I approve cheating. No wonder we live in ♥♥♥♥♥♥ times, people have so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ minds they will defend worst bs and call it legit.

[Wushiba]

Originally posted by nameless undead:

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

The purism espoused by those that don't PvP as seriously as others is going up against the stonewall cogency of serious PvPers who understand how/where their time is arbitrarily wasted. Effectively, this degrades the PvP-side of the community by pollution of opinions/discussion from non-PvPers.

I do PVP and PVE. Still don't see the need for cheating, nor I approve cheating. No wonder we live in ♥♥♥♥♥♥ times, people have so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ minds they will defend worst bs and call it legit.

Twisting words, making excuses, breaking rules and trying to make us look bad for calling it out. Lol. Truely sums up the world we live in.

Also ignoring pages of valid criticism.

[CazadorDeLobo]

Originally posted by nameless undead:

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

The purism espoused by those that don't PvP as seriously as others is going up against the stonewall cogency of serious PvPers who understand how/where their time is arbitrarily wasted. Effectively, this degrades the PvP-side of the community by pollution of opinions/discussion from non-PvPers.

I do PVP and PVE. Still don't see the need for cheating, nor I approve cheating. No wonder we live in ♥♥♥♥♥♥ times, people have so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ minds they will defend worst bs and call it legit.

It's probably because there are tiers of cheating.

There's this, and there are people devoted to trolling and antagonizing others. If you choose to not see the difference, which is what you must be doing, then you're effectively categorizing all time saving methods as a form of cheating, devaluing the accusation and label to the point it just sounds like noise.

If you've been involved with the community long enough, you'd know speedhacking and those who use small multipliers to avoid detection from others, all while pretending to be legitimate, fair players. There is certainly a distinction to be made between such a person, who is actively disrupting the community, and somebody who wishes to not spend any significant amount of time away from the primary mode of gameplay they enjoy/are dedicated to.

[Wushiba]

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

It's probably because there are tiers of cheating.

There's this, and there are people devoted to trolling and antagonizing others. If you choose to not see the difference, which is what you must be doing, then you're effectively categorizing all time saving methods as a form of cheating, devaluing the accusation and label to the point it just sounds like noise.

Lets not call using a mod to get unlimited items a "time saving method" that's purposefully misleading, this is what I mean when I say that people twist the meaning of the words. This is not an EA game where you get Pay2Win "time savers" and other unfair advantage over others.

Seems people got so used to being whales in other microtransaction filled games so much that they have to emulate the feeling by cheating in normal videogames.

[CazadorDeLobo]

Originally posted by Wushiba:

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

It's probably because there are tiers of cheating.

There's this, and there are people devoted to trolling and antagonizing others. If you choose to not see the difference, which is what you must be doing, then you're effectively categorizing all time saving methods as a form of cheating, devaluing the accusation and label to the point it just sounds like noise.

Lets not call using a mod to get unlimited items a "time saving method" that's purposefully misleading, this is what I mean that people twist the meaning of words. This is not an EA game where you get "time savers" and other unfair advantage over others

Actually, because we are a community, we make decisions on such things. I simply don't agree with your opinions, and would love to know what experience in PvP you have under your belt- or if you are just reaching for any argument imaginable to talk down to others.

Given your attempt to equate the matters in question to microtransactions in other games, I'll remind you that this is not an MMO.

[Wushiba]

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

Actually, because we are a community, we make decisions on such things. I simply don't agree with your opinions, and would love to know what experience in PvP you have under your belt- or if you are just reaching for any argument imaginable to talk down to others.

No. The developers make the rules of the game. Not the community. Lol.

You only need common sense to know that using a mod is cheating.

No PvP experience is required. I know PvP.

[Boss]

The primary mode of gameplay has, and will always be, the PvE side of things. We know this from Seamless Coop's downloads, we know this from the entire PvE GENRE Dark Souls spawned. PvPers have always been the minority, and they think cheating to mule/get items hosts don't have is somehow okay.

It's a tiresome trope.

[CazadorDeLobo]

Originally posted by Wushiba:

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

Actually, because we are a community, we make decisions on such things. I simply don't agree with your opinions, and would love to know what experience in PvP you have under your belt- or if you are just reaching for any argument imaginable to talk down to others.

No. The developers make the rules of the game. Not the community. Lol.

This is purism. The community chooses what they want to do with their time - no rules can significantly alter this. Look at seamless - a choice to forego the PvP system and the rules entirely. I believe you need to reflect on what communities of video games are actually capable of vs. the written, stated limitations placed upon them by people such as yourself, right here, right now, with no actual stake in the gameplay balance/time consumption.

You only need common sense to know that using a mod is cheating.

No PvP experience is required. I know PvP.

No stake at all. You're trolling.

[CazadorDeLobo]

Originally posted by Boss:

The primary mode of gameplay has, and will always be, the PvE side of things. We know this from Seamless Coop's downloads, we know this from the entire PvE GENRE Dark Souls spawned. PvPers have always been the minority, and they think cheating to mule/get items hosts don't have is somehow okay.

It's a tiresome trope.

There's no need to politicize it - If you want PvE only, there's a mod for that. If you want PvP only, you're kinda stuck with the vanilla game and a bunch of strategies to streamline the experience.