Is there any other game this hard with a such huge open world?

[FabioManoel1977]

Sorry bad english, I am using google translate

I love Elden Ring, and I am curious to know If exist any other game with a such big and vast open word that is also very hard difficulty with a very rewarding exploration, I love exploration, but I like when it worth to explore.

I own Dark Souls 1,2,3 also Demon Souls and BloodBourne, none of them are open world

I own Skyrim and Fallout 4, they are open world with a large and vast world to explore, but, the exploration is not rewarding, The game is easy even in hard difficulty, You not get any real reward in exploring the world, also the scenarios in both games are VERY repetitive, Elden Ring is not repetitive, each region are very much different, Skyrim and Fallout 4 is boring to explore the world, enemies are repetitive too, but elden ring are not like this.

In few words exist any other game like Elden Ring ? Exist any other game to be compared to Elden Ring ? I wanted to buy it, If exist. Or Elden Ring is unique ?

I know that exist several "Souls Like" games in pixel art, but, I hate pixel art, I like 3D world games.

I really think that Elden Ring is a perfect game, but, for sure someday I will get tired to play it, then I want to have other game ready to play when it happens.

Thank you very much for your time reading it.

[NairBoT]

Origineel geplaatst door Sabaithal:

If you want clunky exploration try Empyrion. Amazing survival exploration game, especially since you can build and designs your own ships/bases from scratch.

But the on-foot ground combat is beyond terrible.

Sounds like it :)

I should have said slow instead of clunky mess.

[MrLuckless]

Origineel geplaatst door boiling pie:

I know some here will probably mock me but if you like the combat I recommend Horizon Zero Dawn. Play on higher difficulty and the combat experience will not be much different from Elden Ring, even though it is technically quite different. Bossfights can be quite hard.
The open world is quite big, although it follows the usual quest formula of this type of games.

No thanks, I don't much care for Ubisoft style open worlds filled with busy work that gets posted onto the map the moment I touch some giant tower. I also prefer a game that has a more hands off approach to story telling and remembers gameplay is first. Horizon is no different from practically any other mainstream Western AAA game so there's no real reason to play that over any other game of its type.

[NairBoT]

Origineel geplaatst door MrLuckless:

Origineel geplaatst door boiling pie:

I know some here will probably mock me but if you like the combat I recommend Horizon Zero Dawn. Play on higher difficulty and the combat experience will not be much different from Elden Ring, even though it is technically quite different. Bossfights can be quite hard.
The open world is quite big, although it follows the usual quest formula of this type of games.

No thanks, I don't much care for Ubisoft style open worlds filled with busy work that gets posted onto the map the moment I touch some giant tower. I also prefer a game that has a more hands off approach to story telling and remembers gameplay is first. Horizon is no different from practically any other mainstream Western AAA game so there's no real reason to play that over any other game of its type.

It's not Ubisoft but people do compare Horizon it to Assassin's Creed Valhalla.

For me, no game can scratch the Horizon itch, the combat is different than anything else.

You are right that it's not hands off in the story telling. It holds your hand.
Elden Ring is king.

[EF_Neo1st]

Origineel geplaatst door nairB:

Origineel geplaatst door MrLuckless:

No thanks, I don't much care for Ubisoft style open worlds filled with busy work that gets posted onto the map the moment I touch some giant tower. I also prefer a game that has a more hands off approach to story telling and remembers gameplay is first. Horizon is no different from practically any other mainstream Western AAA game so there's no real reason to play that over any other game of its type.

It's not Ubisoft but people do compare Horizon it to Assassin's Creed Valhalla.

For me, no game can scratch the Horizon itch, the combat is different than anything else.

You are right that it's not hands off in the story telling. It holds your hand.
Elden Ring is king.

I would say AC Odyssey with +150% damage and +100% damage with Falx of the Olympus and Blade of Yuminess but 1/4 max health and not using abilities can be quite a challenge if you go underleveled (to higher level areas) while playing at Nightmare difficulty.
Enemies are "the same" (less for special enemies, mini-bosses, bosses and mercenaries, mercs arre the best in terms of AI, the least predictable ones and can come with quite surprising perks) and you can accumulate "hunted status" like police chasing you but you will have mercenaries packing together against you with city soldiers and even citizens and bandits up to a full regiment of 25~30+ fort guards + lots or mercs and mercs can come with "pets" that vary from all the animals you can use as companions too (like from small wolves and cheetahs to lions and huge bears . . unless you take a giant special one your pet die quite fast, even more if you go underleveled what mean if you want to make it survive you not only have to chose better your fights as you have to fight more aggressive, sometimes it is quite a challenge to keep the pet alive without you getting yourself killed first even because the pet is stupid if you want to go stealth or select 1x1 fights - pet may turn aggro to other enemy and lure the whole fort into you, what gets the pet killed quite fast).
Taking down forts can be quite fun, even tho repetitive combat there are multiple ways to take down the fort (or even go full stealth pacifist, pillage the whole location, kill "just the captains and polemarch", to do that kind of fort invasion is quite hard as enemies tend to call for help if they see you or hear you - there is a range for that).
It "can be fun" in muiltiple ways but if you dont enjoy playing the same enemies over and over where the higher the level the slightly better AI the enemies have and the "extra perks" enemies have (such as special attacks, ranged attacks along with melee and even heal and other special attacks only the player had so far) then it can be boring.

[Ted]

Origineel geplaatst door boiling pie:

I know some here will probably mock me but if you like the combat I recommend Horizon Zero Dawn. Play on higher difficulty and the combat experience will not be much different from Elden Ring, even though it is technically quite different. Bossfights can be quite hard.
The open world is quite big, although it follows the usual quest formula of this type of games.

I really liked Horizon Zero Dawn, it has the most uninteresting characters and tedious side quests with Ubisoft style markers on the map that treat you like a moron. But the underlying story was a big pleasant surprise for me and overall I thought it was an enjoyable way to switch my brain off and just go around killing everything that moves and exploring the map.

I had very low expectations but I got over 140 hours entertainment before I lost interest, so an absolute bargain.

But for me personally, Elden Ring is a FAR superior game in almost every way other than the typical Fromsoft jank

[MrLuckless]

Origineel geplaatst door nairB:

Origineel geplaatst door MrLuckless:

No thanks, I don't much care for Ubisoft style open worlds filled with busy work that gets posted onto the map the moment I touch some giant tower. I also prefer a game that has a more hands off approach to story telling and remembers gameplay is first. Horizon is no different from practically any other mainstream Western AAA game so there's no real reason to play that over any other game of its type.

It's not Ubisoft but people do compare Horizon it to Assassin's Creed Valhalla.

For me, no game can scratch the Horizon itch, the combat is different than anything else.

You are right that it's not hands off in the story telling. It holds your hand.
Elden Ring is king.

People compare it Assassins Creed or Far Cry or any of the major Ubisoft open world games BECAUSE they play so disturbingly similar. It's a bigger problem with the industry at large that when Elden Ring released and stubbornly did none of those things, many developers from other, western, studios cried foul and said the mechanics and UI of Elden Ring was "dated" and "incredibly poor". Sour grapes is real and nothing hurts more then realizing everything you were taught in school was not only not correct, but actively detrimental to the creative process. I don't like Horizon because there's nothing about it that hasn't been done somewhere else because the people working on it more then likely worked on all those other games that also play similarly to Horizon.

It's a bog standard, Ubisoft open world, current year, modern audience game that is so shallow it's going to be nothing more than shovelware that wasn't bold enough to do something different or even do something more radical like what Id Software did with Doom 2016 and reject many modern tropes of the FPS genre when it released.

Elden Ring is a better game for a lot of reasons, the biggest is that it remembers the fundamental truth of the medium: game-play is king, and Elden Ring plays incredibly well.

[Senki]

horizon and hogwarts legacy type open worlds can be relaxing and enjoyable as well but they'll never reach the amount of fun you can get out of games like Elden Ring that's for sure

I'll never be able to play ubisoft's games though. I tried like 4 of them and quit all of them out of boredom. Their worlds and combat just aren't it

[boiling pie]

Origineel geplaatst door MrLuckless:

Origineel geplaatst door boiling pie:

I know some here will probably mock me but if you like the combat I recommend Horizon Zero Dawn. Play on higher difficulty and the combat experience will not be much different from Elden Ring, even though it is technically quite different. Bossfights can be quite hard.
The open world is quite big, although it follows the usual quest formula of this type of games.

No thanks, I don't much care for Ubisoft style open worlds filled with busy work that gets posted onto the map the moment I touch some giant tower. I also prefer a game that has a more hands off approach to story telling and remembers gameplay is first. Horizon is no different from practically any other mainstream Western AAA game so there's no real reason to play that over any other game of its type.

The combat is the reason to play Horizon Zero Dawn over any other game of its type. Fighting a Thunderjaw or a Fireclaw is right up there with any Fromsoft game (at least for me).

[NairBoT]

Origineel geplaatst door MrLuckless:

Origineel geplaatst door nairB:

It's not Ubisoft but people do compare Horizon it to Assassin's Creed Valhalla.

For me, no game can scratch the Horizon itch, the combat is different than anything else.

You are right that it's not hands off in the story telling. It holds your hand.
Elden Ring is king.

People compare it Assassins Creed or Far Cry or any of the major Ubisoft open world games BECAUSE they play so disturbingly similar. It's a bigger problem with the industry at large that when Elden Ring released and stubbornly did none of those things, many developers from other, western, studios cried foul and said the mechanics and UI of Elden Ring was "dated" and "incredibly poor". Sour grapes is real and nothing hurts more then realizing everything you were taught in school was not only not correct, but actively detrimental to the creative process. I don't like Horizon because there's nothing about it that hasn't been done somewhere else because the people working on it more then likely worked on all those other games that also play similarly to Horizon.

It's a bog standard, Ubisoft open world, current year, modern audience game that is so shallow it's going to be nothing more than shovelware that wasn't bold enough to do something different or even do something more radical like what Id Software did with Doom 2016 and reject many modern tropes of the FPS genre when it released.

Elden Ring is a better game for a lot of reasons, the biggest is that it remembers the fundamental truth of the medium: game-play is king, and Elden Ring plays incredibly well.

If you think Far Cry and Horizon have similar combat than I doubt you have played Horizon.
Moreover, I want to find more games that play like Horizon combat.

As for the other aspects of these open world games, yes, there are similarities.
I think you are right that most of them are Western made.
I agree Elden Ring seemed to break the formula.

Origineel geplaatst door boiling pie:

The combat is the reason to play Horizon Zero Dawn over any other game of its type. Fighting a Thunderjaw or a Fireclaw is right up there with any Fromsoft game (at least for me).

Exactly, he is missing out not playing Horizon for the combat.

I mean, combat is his main argument for liking Elden Ring.
"the biggest is that it remembers the fundamental truth of the medium: game-play is king,"

I think the ironic part is you are more likely to find Elden Ring combat in other games than Horizon combat.
Dark Souls 3 combat wasn't much different than Elden Ring.

[MrLuckless]

Origineel geplaatst door nairB:

If you think Far Cry and Horizon have similar combat than I doubt you have played Horizon.
Moreover, I want to find more games that play like Horizon combat.

Origineel geplaatst door boiling pie:

Exactly, he is missing out not playing Horizon for the combat.

I mean, combat is his main argument for liking Elden Ring.
"the biggest is that it remembers the fundamental truth of the medium: game-play is king,"

I think the ironic part is you are more likely to find Elden Ring combat in other games than Horizon combat.
Dark Souls 3 combat wasn't much different than Elden Ring.

I wasn't comparing the combat of Far Cry and Horizon, I was comparing their overall gameplay which is quite similar. Besides that, no, I don't think you'll find a lot of games that play like Elden Ring or the Souls series in general, as other developers took the general idea the series had and went in different directions.

Let me ask you a few questions. If I'm playing an over the shoulder action game that zooms out for melee combat, am I playing Horizon or God of War?

If I have game that has light rpg elements and crafting systems, am I playing Far Cry 3 (or anything past that) or Horizon?

What about basic stealth mechanics and takedown animation? Assassins Creed or Horizon? Or if you're feeling spicy Shadow of Mordor?

I did play Horizon way back when and I wasn't impressed because it wasn't anything I hadn't seen before from other titles all grafted together in a Frankenstein's monster of a game, but this time with a chick as the protagonist...and even that wasn't original because Lara Croft has been doing this schtick with her rebranded series back in 2013.

TLDR: I just don't like the game. Simple as.

[EF_Neo1st]

Origineel geplaatst door MrLuckless:

Origineel geplaatst door nairB:

If you think Far Cry and Horizon have similar combat than I doubt you have played Horizon.
Moreover, I want to find more games that play like Horizon combat.

I wasn't comparing the combat of Far Cry and Horizon, I was comparing their overall gameplay which is quite similar. Besides that, no, I don't think you'll find a lot of games that play like Elden Ring or the Souls series in general, as other developers took the general idea the series had and went in different directions.

Let me ask you a few questions. If I'm playing an over the shoulder action game that zooms out for melee combat, am I playing Horizon or God of War?

If I have game that has light rpg elements and crafting systems, am I playing Far Cry 3 (or anything past that) or Horizon?

What about basic stealth mechanics and takedown animation? Assassins Creed or Horizon? Or if you're feeling spicy Shadow of Mordor?

I did play Horizon way back when and I wasn't impressed because it wasn't anything I hadn't seen before from other titles all grafted together in a Frankenstein's monster of a game, but this time with a chick as the protagonist...and even that wasn't original because Lara Croft has been doing this schtick with her rebranded series back in 2013.

TLDR: I just don't like the game. Simple as.

Horizon is not hack&slash, God of War is, Horizon have a kind of bonfire ... but the similarities in gameplay kind of end there, still it is easily recognizeable by combat if you playing Horizon or GoW.

The stealth in AC changed from AC Black Flag and Rogue to Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla, if you are not overleveled and dont have huge damage is much like backstab in a Souls game, but worst in most cases.
I did not test much stealth in Horizon but is kind of similar.

You not liking the game (I guess you talk about Horizon) is a thing, not being able to recognize things easily recognizeable is something else

[Syncrosonix]

Breath of the Wild is fairly challenging and has a huge open world to explore.