Just replayed Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne.

[Realistic Rattlesnake Jake]

MAN what a breath of fresh air that was compared to this game. I actually had fun and was immersed in the experience, ♥♥♥♥ was wild. I "like" Elden Ring, but man it just doesn't compare to the Dark Souls series or Bloodborne. I play Elden Ring and just get frustrated and exhausted with it, like I'm not having fun and am just on some wild ride that Miyazaki made to torture me. You could go through it and think "Man, do I just not like From Software games anymore?" but then you go back to the classics and go "Oh no this game just has something weird up with it". Wild how that works considering how similar this game is to its predecessors (bloodborne less so since the combat there is just different).

Have y'all replayed the earlier titles recently? I recommend it if you're burned out on Elden Ring, especially if you haven't played them in a couple of years.

[Senki]

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dragon15 eredeti hozzászólása:

the problem with elden ring bosses is that they are made with OP ash of war and mimic tear in mind. remember rivers of blood before the neft? bosses are designed for that BS level.
so if you go 'souls purist' -> 'i wont use spirit ashes and spam L2" then youre going to have a bad time

I feel like the camera is a bigger issue than how bosses respond to ash of war usage, when it comes to criticizing those fights

Yep

Especially in those thunder dragon fights in crumbling azula, the camera is beyond horrible and basically ruins the fight.

They really needed to make a zoom out camera for those giant fights, the way it is now is pretty janky

[plump pickle]

Personally enjoyed the bosses in BB and DS3 more and I kinda play souls like for that. I'll take Nameless King, Gale, Gundyr, Gehrman, Gascoigne etc. over the ER bosses any day. Heck, I always teleport back to the bonfire when they're close to death so I can fight them again.

[itssomuchfun]

Elden Ring completely ruined my feeble attempts to finish Bloodborne. Returning to that bleak clumsy game after the majesty of the Lands Between... just couldn't.

[BKo]

All of them have good and bad points. I don't think any of them match the original feeling of adventuring and exploring dangerous new areas like demon's and dark souls, which I believe the DNA of that came much from King's Field. By the time DS3 came around, it was basically rollspam: the game, basically an action game with some light RPG elements, same for BB, same for ER to an extent. Sekiro just openly admits it's an action game, and ended up being the best one with the tightest balance because there's only one weapon and playstyle to design the game around.

ER shines in its presentation and the open world does it favors here. Where it's lacking is in actual gameplay and the open world does it no favors there. Everyone knows by now, you go into a catacomb or cave or some other area, you don't expect anything amazing in there. You will find some summon you will never use. The boss will be some recycled enemy. The "big reward" might be an arteria leaf or some other nonsense you will never use. But you go in anyway because the mini dungeons are usually fun and you will probably at least get enough runes to level up.

Balance is my only true problem with the game. If you go into Malenia's room with the wrong build, you could be there for 6 hours, even though your build has been facerolling the entire game up until there, because she is badly designed. Yesterday, after more than a year, I beat her in only three tries. Yes, I still remember somewhat how she works, but mostly it's because my chosen weapon was way better against her, and this difference is far too absurd. I've heard similar things about Maliketh being a nightmare for heavy weapons, although my first time through I had no special difficulty because I was dual straight swords.

[777]

I already wrote here that Elden Ring is crap, better play DS 2 scholar of the first sin. But fanatics said that I was wrong, that an empty open world, identical dungeons and a lot of copying from DS 3 is considered normal for souls games and this is a new standard. lies of p from their words should be in sh*t, because Elden Ring set a new bar in the Souls series, although it is directed in a negative direction.

[Senki]

BKo eredeti hozzászólása:

Balance is my only true problem with the game. If you go into Malenia's room with the wrong build, you could be there for 6 hours, even though your build has been facerolling the entire game up until there, because she is badly designed. Yesterday, after more than a year, I beat her in only three tries. Yes, I still remember somewhat how she works, but mostly it's because my chosen weapon was way better against her, and this difference is far too absurd. I've heard similar things about Maliketh being a nightmare for heavy weapons, although my first time through I had no special difficulty because I was dual straight swords.

I agree with your points on Malenia but Maliketh is not hard with heavy weapons at all

My easiest run against him was with dual wielding colossal weapons and I melted him easily

[Weyrlock]

Senki eredeti hozzászólása:

I agree with your points on Malenia but Maliketh is not hard with heavy weapons at all

My easiest run against him was with dual wielding colossal weapons and I melted him easily

I'm very surprised with this post because I just played a save with dual colossal weapons basically through the entire game, even done some pvp, and the only thing in the entire game that I simply could not do easily, that is without dying or dying less than 3 times (mostly because dumbness), was Maliketh first phase, his cadence of attacks is so broken that we almost can't hit him, thanks to his constant backstep and stagger with every attack.

I even helped more than 10 people with Malenia and most of them were NG+ because I was a bit overleveled, and one person with final boss NG+7 which dropped me 10 Lord Runes, thanks by the way.

[Caledor]

Sabaithal eredeti hozzászólása:

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Bloodborne was Mediocre at best, and a lot of the people praising it are just trying to convince themselves that it was worth buying an overpriced console to play it

*Runs away/unsubs*

It also ran like garbage and was a huge turn off for playing and enjoying it and was a huge stain on an otherwise okay game.

[hemorrhage911]

1. DS3 is the worst directed Miyazaki game

2. Anyone saying DS2 is better than Elden Ring should never be trusted on anything ever.

These are facts.

[hemorrhage911]

777 eredeti hozzászólása:

I already wrote here that Elden Ring is crap, better play DS 2 scholar of the first sin. But fanatics said that I was wrong, that an empty open world, identical dungeons and a lot of copying from DS 3 is considered normal for souls games and this is a new standard. lies of p from their words should be in sh*t, because Elden Ring set a new bar in the Souls series, although it is directed in a negative direction.

You are wrong and one thread doesn't suddenly make you right. DS2 is a mechanically bad game, it simply is. Good ideas does not trump bad gameplay.

[777]

hemorrhage911 eredeti hozzászólása:

777 eredeti hozzászólása:

I already wrote here that Elden Ring is crap, better play DS 2 scholar of the first sin. But fanatics said that I was wrong, that an empty open world, identical dungeons and a lot of copying from DS 3 is considered normal for souls games and this is a new standard. lies of p from their words should be in sh*t, because Elden Ring set a new bar in the Souls series, although it is directed in a negative direction.

You are wrong and one thread doesn't suddenly make you right. DS2 is a mechanically bad game, it simply is. Good ideas does not trump bad gameplay.

Wow, chicken sounds appeared.

[0wnz0r]

hemorrhage911 eredeti hozzászólása:

1. DS3 is the worst directed Miyazaki game

2. Anyone saying DS2 is better than Elden Ring should never be trusted on anything ever.

These are facts.

miyazaki didnt direct 3.

bandai namco said he did because everybody shat all over tanimura for 2. so they told a "white lie" about miyazaki as directer. fans said they wouldnt trust another souls not directed by miyazaki n they insisted they wouldnt buy another unless he directed it. kinda expect a publisher to lie in that situation. like how konami said kojima was on vacation lol...

the main director was okano. tanimura helped him after he finished scholar. miyazaki was in the middle of sekiro n bloodborne at the time.

all miyazaki did was the same thing he did for amored core. he helped to get the project started, then ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off to do his own thing.

[hemorrhage911]

0wnz0r eredeti hozzászólása:

hemorrhage911 eredeti hozzászólása:

1. DS3 is the worst directed Miyazaki game

2. Anyone saying DS2 is better than Elden Ring should never be trusted on anything ever.

These are facts.

miyazaki didnt direct 3.

bandai namco said he did because everybody shat all over tanimura for 2. so they told a "white lie" about miyazaki as directer. fans said they wouldnt trust another souls not directed by miyazaki n they insisted they wouldnt buy another unless he directed it. kinda expect a publisher to lie in that situation. like how konami said kojima was on vacation lol...

the main director was okano. tanimura helped him after he finished scholar. miyazaki was in the middle of sekiro n bloodborne at the time.

all miyazaki did was the same thing he did for amored core. he helped to get the project started, then ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off to do his own thing.

What the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about? Bloodborne was in development when Dark Souls 2 was. Dark Souls 3 planning began when he was finishing up Bloodborne's DLC but then took over - DS3 was the last game Miyazaki directed before he became president. Sekiro was being developed alongside Elden Ring. Miyazaki was the LEAD director for Dark Souls 3, the others were co-directors.

Your timeline is all screwed up.

[Scuzz]

Sabaithal eredeti hozzászólása:

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Bloodborne was Mediocre at best, and a lot of the people praising it are just trying to convince themselves that it was worth buying an overpriced console to play it

*Runs away/unsubs*

Pretty sure you know how unpopular that opinion is. I played Bloodborne on my daughters console. I would love to be able to play it on my PC. Bloodborne is the birth of the of modern DS3 and ER play styles.

I also don't get the general hate of DS2. Sure it is too long with the 3 DLC but it is still a great game. Even the worst DS game is better than most other games.

[hemorrhage911]

Scuzz eredeti hozzászólása:

Sabaithal eredeti hozzászólása:

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Bloodborne was Mediocre at best, and a lot of the people praising it are just trying to convince themselves that it was worth buying an overpriced console to play it

*Runs away/unsubs*

Pretty sure you know how unpopular that opinion is. I played Bloodborne on my daughters console. I would love to be able to play it on my PC. Bloodborne is the birth of the of modern DS3 and ER play styles.

I also don't get the general hate of DS2. Sure it is too long with the 3 DLC but it is still a great game. Even the worst DS game is better than most other games.

Not hard to understand, DS2 plays poorly. Not only is it far more clunky than DS1, the hitboxes are bad and tying i-frames to a stat was always going to be controversial.