I keep having lag spikes

[Azkeden]

I have played for nearly 200 hours and I keep experimenting lag spikes through the game. I really don't know what to do, because my PC is way capable of running this game, I have a 3060 and 16GB of RAM, so I really have no clue why do I keep dying because the lag wont let me play, any idea of whats happening?

[nfinite.recursion]

Uh, you mean stuttering?

CPU?

RAM speed?

[Azkeden]

Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:

Uh, you mean stuttering?

CPU?

RAM speed?

This is the problem: https://youtu.be/NJvavD6wmAI

This are my comps:
Processor: Ryzen 5 3600k
Graphics card: GTX 3060
RAM: Corsair Vengance LPX 8GB x2

[nfinite.recursion]

Yes that stuttering, not "lag".

1. Do you have XBox Gamepass + games installed?

2. Do you have a USB HDD, printer, scanner, etc. connected?

3. Do you have multiple controllers connected?

[SuperJedi]

No I get that sometimes. It's not lag. It's a pause and then the screen catches up after a second. Very annoying.

[Sparhawk 59]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzsHYeIpFP4&t=89s
https://kosgames.com/elden-ring-performance-boost-and-stability-guide-17659/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9McWiB9ij4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pckLWJeCQyc

[SuperJedi]

Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:

Yes that stuttering, not "lag".

1. Do you have XBox Gamepass + games installed?

2. Do you have a USB HDD, printer, scanner, etc. connected?

3. Do you have multiple controllers connected?

I've got gamepass games? What would that do to cause stuttering? Also have an xbox controller wireless with a dongle.

[Azkeden]

Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:

Yes that stuttering, not "lag".

1. Do you have XBox Gamepass + games installed?

2. Do you have a USB HDD, printer, scanner, etc. connected?

3. Do you have multiple controllers connected?

Yes, no and no.
And the Xbox game I have is Minecraft, so I hope thats not the problem hahaha

[Superboniato]

Originally posted by Azkeden:

This is the problem: https://youtu.be/NJvavD6wmAI

In my pc those things are caused by my controller, the cable doesnt always make a good connection and the game does weird things like that for a couple seconds.

[nfinite.recursion]

Originally posted by Isotoxin82:

Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:

Yes that stuttering, not "lag".

1. Do you have XBox Gamepass + games installed?

2. Do you have a USB HDD, printer, scanner, etc. connected?

3. Do you have multiple controllers connected?

I've got gamepass games? What would that do to cause stuttering? Also have an xbox controller wireless with a dongle.

Elden Ring, DS3, and Sekiro all exhibit a bug known as the "input polling bug" where the game polls ALL Windows devices, not just keyboards, mice, and game controllers for input like more competently programmed games do.

Gamepass games are stored in a virtual HDD image that is mounted to the Windows file system. These virtual HDD images behave like real HDDs and this includes the ability to go into sleep mode. Since Elden Ring will pointlessly poll this virtual HDD for input, it will constantly "wake up" from sleep mode, resulting in a stutter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t4efv5/possible_workaround_for_some_microfreezesstutters/

[Azkeden]

Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:

Originally posted by Isotoxin82:

I've got gamepass games? What would that do to cause stuttering? Also have an xbox controller wireless with a dongle.

Elden Ring, DS3, and Sekiro all exhibit a bug known as the "input polling bug" where the game polls ALL Windows devices, not just keyboards, mice, and game controllers for input like more competently programmed games do.

Gamepass games are stored in a virtual HDD image that is mounted to the Windows file system. These virtual HDD images behave like real HDDs and this includes the ability to go into sleep mode. Since Elden Ring will pointlessly poll this virtual HDD for input, it will constantly "wake up" from sleep mode, resulting in a stutter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t4efv5/possible_workaround_for_some_microfreezesstutters/

Well, I just uninstalled all my Xbox games and I also went to my nvidia control panel and activated triple buffering and set Vsync on fast (Saw this on a reddit post), lets see if I can play now... will give you all an update in a few minutes

[Azkeden]

Okay, it seems like I dont have stutter anymore, in case I do i'll comment here again :P

[SuperJedi]

So I can't play any xbox games from Game Pass and Elden Ring. Absolutely dumb!

[Azkeden]

Originally posted by Isotoxin82:

So I can't play any xbox games from Game Pass and Elden Ring. Absolutely dumb!

Yeah, quite dumb. Thanks god Im not paying gamepass hahaha

Originally posted by csand:

Originally posted by Isotoxin82:

So I can't play any xbox games from Game Pass and Elden Ring. Absolutely dumb!

It's not like that for everyone. I have gamepass games installed (Minecraft and a couple others) and they don't cause stuttering. But removing or adding a device (keyboard, controller etc) does cause a brief pause. I only notice it because I turn off my Bluetooth keyboard and mouse once I'm playing so I get 2 brief pauses and that's it until I turn them on again.

I only had Minecraft and Battlefield 3 and 1, had stuttering as you can guess. Now it goes smooth as ♥♥♥♥, the only bad thing is that I had already finished 4 characters xD

[nfinite.recursion]

Originally posted by csand:

Originally posted by Isotoxin82:

So I can't play any xbox games from Game Pass and Elden Ring. Absolutely dumb!

It's not like that for everyone. I have gamepass games installed (Minecraft and a couple others) and they don't cause stuttering. But removing or adding a device (keyboard, controller etc) does cause a brief pause. I only notice it because I turn off my Bluetooth keyboard and mouse once I'm playing so I get 2 brief pauses and that's it until I turn them on again.

I'm not 100% sure as I don't use Gamepass, but I think some games now install "properly" like they do with Steam and GOG, which is to say that they install loose files in a folder rather than a virtual HDD image.

For games that don't install in this manner by default:

Update 03/01/22: Microsoft has announced that the upgrades for the Xbox App on PC are now available for all users.

The app will now allow you to choose an installation folder, access files for installed games, and allow for more modding. Existing games don't have to be fully re-installed: "Just right click on them in the left-hand side of your app," reads a Microsoft post, "and click on 'manage,' then 'enable.' You can also move and repair your games from here."

The app needs to be updated to access the changes.

https://www.ign.com/articles/pc-xbox-app-removing-installation-restrictions-allowing-modding

So it seems that for games that still install a virtual HDD image by default can be reinstalled as loose files by changing some options. This also gives you the ability to mod these games as well.

[Azkeden]

Nop, I still have stuttering :/