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GPU usage drops to 0% resulting in big stutter.
Please, if anyone who ahd a similiar problem could give a solution. For some reason the GPU usage suddenly drops to 0% resulting in very annoying stutters ( The game goes to 1 fps for a second 3 times one after another and then fast forwards to catch up). It happens only in FromSoft games for some reason. I had the same issue in DS3 aswell
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It started in DS3 after they patched it to bring it back online. Most if not all are having that micro stutter in DS3
Disable Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator in Windows Device Manager. Should be under Software Devices.

The giveaway is that OP is experiencing the same issue in DS3. ER, DS3, and Sekiro all exhibit the input polling bug where these games poll ALL devices for input and not just keyboards, mice, and game controllers like a more competently programmed game would.

Note that disabling MDARE may not necessarily fix the issue because there are a few other causes for this like having Gamepass games installed, having multiple game controllers plugged in, having an HDD installed either internally or via USB, or having some types of RGB control software installed like iCUE.
Автор сообщения: nfinite.recursion
Disable Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator in Windows Device Manager. Should be under Software Devices.

The giveaway is that OP is experiencing the same issue in DS3. ER, DS3, and Sekiro all exhibit the input polling bug where these games poll ALL devices for input and not just keyboards, mice, and game controllers like a more competently programmed game would.

Note that disabling MDARE may not necessarily fix the issue because there are a few other causes for this like having Gamepass games installed, having multiple game controllers plugged in, having an HDD installed either internally or via USB, or having some types of RGB control software installed like iCUE.


I disabled it, but still get the stutters. Should I restart the PC first?

Also, I noticed that the main cause of the lag is my BT keyboard. Most of the stutters happen whenever it reconnects or "wakes up".
Автор сообщения: Karuczan
Please, if anyone who ahd a similiar problem could give a solution. For some reason the GPU usage suddenly drops to 0% resulting in very annoying stutters ( The game goes to 1 fps for a second 3 times one after another and then fast forwards to catch up). It happens only in FromSoft games for some reason. I had the same issue in DS3 aswell

here the fix

so i finally fixed my stutter/freeze issues by doing this.
Turn off TPM 2.0 (Trusted Platform Module) and C-state in your Bios.

trust be before this i tried everything and nothing worked. My theory is its have something to do with the game DRM or Anti-cheat with TPM. After doing this my game doesnt freeze anymore played for about 14 hrs without a single one. I hope this help someone cause this issue was driving me insane
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Автор сообщения: Karuczan
Please, if anyone who ahd a similiar problem could give a solution. For some reason the GPU usage suddenly drops to 0% resulting in very annoying stutters ( The game goes to 1 fps for a second 3 times one after another and then fast forwards to catch up). It happens only in FromSoft games for some reason. I had the same issue in DS3 aswell

here the fix

so i finally fixed my stutter/freeze issues by doing this.
Turn off TPM 2.0 (Trusted Platform Module) and C-state in your Bios.

trust be before this i tried everything and nothing worked. My theory is its have something to do with the game DRM or Anti-cheat with TPM. After doing this my game doesnt freeze anymore played for about 14 hrs without a single one. I hope this help someone cause this issue was driving me insane


What are the consequences of disabling these things?
Автор сообщения: Karuczan
Автор сообщения: OldManSkills

here the fix

so i finally fixed my stutter/freeze issues by doing this.
Turn off TPM 2.0 (Trusted Platform Module) and C-state in your Bios.

trust be before this i tried everything and nothing worked. My theory is its have something to do with the game DRM or Anti-cheat with TPM. After doing this my game doesnt freeze anymore played for about 14 hrs without a single one. I hope this help someone cause this issue was driving me insane


What are the consequences of disabling these things?

ok so TPM is a extra security feature there is no real downside of turning it off or real risk. But if you are a valorant player on windows 11 , this is 100% required to play.

C-state - These modes or "C-states" start at C0, which is the normal CPU operating mode (the CPU is 100% activated). The higher the C number is, the deeper into sleep mode the CPU goes. In other words, more circuits and signals are turned off, and the CPU takes more time to fully wake up into C0 mode (mostly an energy saving feature) no downside besides electricity bills and your cpu running at constant power.
Автор сообщения: Karuczan
Автор сообщения: OldManSkills

here the fix

so i finally fixed my stutter/freeze issues by doing this.
Turn off TPM 2.0 (Trusted Platform Module) and C-state in your Bios.

trust be before this i tried everything and nothing worked. My theory is its have something to do with the game DRM or Anti-cheat with TPM. After doing this my game doesnt freeze anymore played for about 14 hrs without a single one. I hope this help someone cause this issue was driving me insane


What are the consequences of disabling these things?

TPM is not needed in windows 10, in windows 11 it is a security function you have to activate or the system will not bootup at all and since intel CPU's have a faulty buildin TPM chip it is possible that TPM 2.0 functions cause halt states at the CPU, the C states are the setting for the internal powersaving modes of INTEL CPU's but they have only a effect if your computer is send to sleep (powersaving mode) what is useless today.
Автор сообщения: OldManSkills
Автор сообщения: dark-breed

TPM is not needed in windows 10, in windows 11 it is a security function you have to activate or the system will not bootup at all and since intel CPU's have a faulty buildin TPM chip it is possible that TPM 2.0 functions cause halt states at the CPU, the C states are the setting for the internal powersaving modes of INTEL CPU's but they have only a effect if your computer is send to sleep (powersaving mode) what is useless today.

that is false i have windows 11 and the features is turn off and my windows boot

Source : https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-11-is-installed-need-to-disable-tpm-can/8805dae1-c58f-4b31-b6b7-e413db252dd0#:~:text=TPM%20is%20NOT%20required%20to,decryption%20key%20to%20the%20disk.

you have to bypass it and you lose windows updates and some subsystem functions too by disable the TPM functions.

a official unmodified windows 11 does not boot with TMP chip disabled (it will even not get installed). it is also known that till the end of the year the bybass will no longer work for newer builds.
Автор сообщения: dark-breed
Автор сообщения: OldManSkills

that is false i have windows 11 and the features is turn off and my windows boot

Source : https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-11-is-installed-need-to-disable-tpm-can/8805dae1-c58f-4b31-b6b7-e413db252dd0#:~:text=TPM%20is%20NOT%20required%20to,decryption%20key%20to%20the%20disk.

you have to bypass it and you lose windows updates and some subsystem functions too by disable the TPM functions.

a official unmodified windows 11 does not boot with TMP chip disabled (it will even not get installed). it is also known that till the end of the year the bybass will no longer work for newer builds.

no bypass needed your are just making stuff up.
Автор сообщения: OldManSkills
Автор сообщения: dark-breed

you have to bypass it and you lose windows updates and some subsystem functions too by disable the TPM functions.

a official unmodified windows 11 does not boot with TMP chip disabled (it will even not get installed). it is also known that till the end of the year the bybass will no longer work for newer builds.

no bypass needed your are just making stuff up.

You posted the link where a Microsoft agent said you need to bypass TPM to install windows 11 (in the october 2022 build, mind you).

you should read what you post. blocked you now I don't argue with people like you about the lies you propagate here.

this is what microsoft supportdesk says to this:

it is technically possible to run Windows 11 without a TPM 2.0 chip. However, you need to make some changes to the system settings and perform some additional steps to complete the installation.

However, it is important to note that the operating system without a TPM may not be as secure as with a TPM. It is also possible that certain features of Windows 11 are not available if there is no TPM 2.0 chip.

Therefore, it is recommended to use a TPM 2.0 chip if your computer supports it to get the best possible Windows 11 experience.
Отредактировано dark-breed; 28 апр. 2023 г. в 13:38
Uhh, anyways

GPU actually registering 0% utilization tells me that you're experiencing CPU hang. Any post like this should be accompanied by a list of your specs, if you want the most effective troubleshooting.
OP send reply if you have progress update, pls. We'll get it together and help
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OP send reply if you have progress update, pls. We'll get it together and help

Win 10
Ryzen 5 5600
RTX 2070
16 GB RAM

Disabling Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator didn't do much of a difference. I Haven't done the C-State thing as I don't want to disable things that I dont really understand.

The BT keyboard turns out to have a major part in this. I turn it off when i play and the stutters dont happen as often, but they are still present. I don't know if it could still be a bt device, like my mouse, because with the keyboard there is a LED which indicated reconnecting and the mouse those not flash when it does. Also, the mouse uses its own adapter.
Автор сообщения: Karuczan
Автор сообщения: CazadorDeLobo
OP send reply if you have progress update, pls. We'll get it together and help

Win 10
Ryzen 5 5600
RTX 2070
16 GB RAM

Disabling Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator didn't do much of a difference. I Haven't done the C-State thing as I don't want to disable things that I dont really understand.

The BT keyboard turns out to have a major part in this. I turn it off when i play and the stutters dont happen as often, but they are still present. I don't know if it could still be a bt device, like my mouse, because with the keyboard there is a LED which indicated reconnecting and the mouse those not flash when it does. Also, the mouse uses its own adapter.

it is possible that a BT device cause stutters because most BT devices have a powersaving mode and disconnect this way and reconnect again to the system because the input scan of this game will cause a wakeup event, during this the driver get reloaded and this can cause a halt state.
Автор сообщения: dark-breed
Автор сообщения: Karuczan

Win 10
Ryzen 5 5600
RTX 2070
16 GB RAM

Disabling Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator didn't do much of a difference. I Haven't done the C-State thing as I don't want to disable things that I dont really understand.

The BT keyboard turns out to have a major part in this. I turn it off when i play and the stutters dont happen as often, but they are still present. I don't know if it could still be a bt device, like my mouse, because with the keyboard there is a LED which indicated reconnecting and the mouse those not flash when it does. Also, the mouse uses its own adapter.

it is possible that a BT device cause stutters because most BT devices have a powersaving mode and disconnect this way and reconnect again to the system because the input scan of this game will cause a wakeup event, during this the driver get reloaded and this can cause a halt state.


At first I thought that the keyboard was the the case, because it reconnecting casused about 80% of the times the game stuttered, but with the other 20% im not sure what could it be.
Would only paired, but not connected devices also play a role?
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