Game of the decade potential

[Mr_Blank]

I know this decade just started, but I think elden ring could pull this. Now I obviously don’t want to start arguments about this and this is just my personal opinion, so I’ll go over every aspect that makes a game what it is, and how elden ring will potentially do this better than every other game this decade. Also I’m only doing this because I just found out Witcher 3 won against BOTW for game of the decade which really surprised me but also didn’t.

creativity. Elden rings world is insanely unique, with very few areas like anything I’ve ever seen (granted the only other fromsoft games I’ve played are bloodborne for 2 hours, sekiro for 9, and 2 minutes of kings field.) the other contestants for game of the decade that I’ve seen so far would be tears of the kingdom (which we still don’t know about) hogwarts legacy, psyconauts 2, last of us 2, doom eternal, and ghost of tshuhsima. 3 of these six are sequels to already existing games, and while they are all in My opinion major upgrade to the original on a visual scale alone (only for what We’ve seen from totk obviously) none of them feel incredibly unique apart from psyconauts 2 which was beautiful and got robbed 2021. Hogwarts legacy is absolutely
GOREGOUS, the scaling of the school and surrounding area is fantastic and makes you feel very small, but I think the biome variety could have used some work. Ghost of Tsushima is beautiful as well and I would say it’s on par with ERs visuals, but this game is beaten out by elden ring in other areas. Doom eternal is doom eternal, the games not focused on visuals m, and while they’re great, they’re very one note most of the time and the areas that are different feel like a breath of fresh air every time you leave an area that’s red. Another thing elden ring does wonders In is the character design. Psyconauts was the prettiest out of all the games I mentioned with its characters (my opinion) but each demigod is so recognizable and amazing looking that I’d say elden ring tops most of the games I mentioned. The icon of sin is an AMAZING design, but I think space slug looks way cooler.

The story. This is admittedly eden rings weakest attribute, as I believe that Tsushima, last of us, psyconauts and potentially tears of the kingdom all outside eden ring here. However, I won’t say that makes elden rings story bad. Elden rings story is purposefully bleak and vague, so that the fanbase can piece things TOGEATHAAAA in their theories of lore. And what we do piece togeather I would argue is much more interesting. While I enjoy the slice of life mixed with adventure and Terror in psyconauts 2 and last of us 2, and greatly enjoy the plots of Tsushima, eternal and hogwarts, elden rings story of a fracture world and the struggle to fix it is incredibly interesting, with characters sprouting entire factions of people to suppose others. Rykard, miquella and mohg are some of my favourite characters specifically for their lore alone. Speaking specifically about characters, again elden ring does lose in forms of dialoige, as the lost interesting comes from interactions with bosses in cutscenes and anything to Do with tanith, boc, rya, Millicent, master hewg, and ranni. While I would argue having to seek out these characters for inriguing dialouge is a detriment to the game, it’s something that every other game I think deserves GOTD except doom eternal does, because they are open world or expansive linear games. Take psyconauts 2 for example, some of the best interactions in the game are ones you don’t need to listen to, like Ram talking to Sam, his mother, his brother, or Compton. Or the other students in hogwarts legacy. For story and character dialouge id say elden ring at first glance is at a disadvantage, but is an equal to these games.

Gameplay: (focusing on combat and travel) THE BEST out of every combat we’ve actually played on this list. Doom and psyconauts get very close because of their satisfying and creative combat, but their lack of massive weapon choice (and yes comparing doom eternal weapon count to elden rings is like comparing water to wine, but it doesn’t make doom eternal bad it’s still a 9/10 for me) is huge compared to elden ring. Here how I could summarize this alTOGEATHAAAA; hogwarts legacy, a magic based combat game, has 34 spells. Even if it had one more, not including the incantations, eden ring would have DOUBLE that at 70 unique sorceries (again not including incants). The amount of swords, great swords, spears, and axes in this game is ridiculous, and the fact that so many have either a special art of war or skill or entirely different moves et that makes them special is ridiculous. Take the cross nakinaba for example, a normal spear with a. Completely different base moveset that gives it a thrust AND slash damage type, making it different from the bolt of grandad which only thrusts, but also has a lightning bolt spear ability that makes it fun to use in its own way. Every, single, weapon, is like this, and while there are some that are boring like most standard weapon a they can almost ALL be enchanted by ashes of war, potentially making your hollows whip or graatsword entirely different from someone else’s. this is something that no other game mentioned except for tears of the kingdom which we’ve yet to see the full scale of actually does, malding elden ring very unique in its playstyle. Moving to travel, literally the best out of every game. If tears of the kingdom’s fast travel is like BOTW, the. Elden rings will remain faster with less lag. In terms of traversing the area I will take Torrent over Epona any day, since I can summon him from under me almost anytime anywhere.

The score: uhhhhhh so this is the controversial opinion and something that’s completely subjective. All of these games have similar quality scores with doom eternal being the standout. However, if I’m being completely honest, I would replay every one of these games and put either godskin apostles, Radagon of the golden order, elden beast, godrick the golden, dragon lord placidusax or lichdragon fortisaxx over every boss in all of these games. Something truly speaks to me with the athereal opera singing and the Han Zimmer ass orchestra in most of the elden ring songs more than any other game song EVER. Elden rings score stands as some of the best music ever and while I love god of war ragnaroks soundtrack I don’t think it deserved the win over elden rings score.

Finally the most controversial of these 5 important parts of the game: accessibility. Games aren’t made for everyone, doom eternal is tough for most even on the lowest setting, ghost of Tsushima’a combat is very different to most games, and totk is unknown bc we don’t know how the combat works fully. Despite elden ring coming from the dark souls series known for its inaccessibility to people who can’t “got gud”, elden ring has so many play styles to make it easier for people. Summoning makes bosses trivially easier because the focus is momentarily taken off of you, using spells and using bloodhounds step or light builds to dodge makes the game incredibly easy with most bosses. The game has So many ways to cheese bosses if they are to difficult, like billed builds, frost builds, anything to do with katanas, and especially With my experience in sekiro and bloodborne, out of these three elden ring was most definitely the easiest to get through, and I would still recommend it to people who aren’t used to difficult games

Anyway, with the 2 and nearly a half years we’ve gotten of video games, so far, Elden Ring is definety my game of the decade. Let me know what you think as well.

[Kleerex]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Senki:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kleerex:

That Reddit post is 2 years old.

None of the missing features came back in those 2 years. It was all just bug fixes or small changes.

That post is still as relevant as it was 2 years ago.

Because they were rumors, not confirmed features. Most of the links in that thread point to some other Reddit post or a website reciting said rumors and speculations.

Even with missing features there are still more varied features left than in Elden RIng. No drinking estus with buddies (damn, even DS3 had this!), no jak races, no customizable mounts, nothing. Even questlines are vague, barebones and nonsensical (like, curing Millicent's rot with a needle pulled from a guy in rot lake).

[Janthis]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Senki:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von vamirez:

One thing that eternally bugs me is that CDPR gets a free pass for stuff that would utterly annihilate other studios. Apart from the fact that they ruined Cyberpunk2020, which I played a lot as a tabletop game in the late 90s, and the creator doesn't give a damn...

Yeah they're pretty much just like Sony/Nintendo. Amassed too many fanboys to fail at this point no matter how scummy their practices become.

Oh, the great irony...

For what it's worth I actually had a lot of fun with CP2077, just going into it blind without knowing about the early promises (which probably helped). I also started late enough that most of the major bugs and issues were fixed and it was a smooth gameplay experience. Was it perfect? No, but it captivated me enough to finish it twice, and I'll do another playthrough when the DLC comes out. I finished ER once and never could be said to have a lot of fun, honestly.

Yes, I know it's only my personal opinion but this forum is filled with fanboys who think ER is the greatest thing since the invention of videogames and everything else is garbage, so...

[vamirez]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Johnny_B_80:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Senki:

Yeah they're pretty much just like Sony/Nintendo. Amassed too many fanboys to fail at this point no matter how scummy their practices become.

Oh, the great irony...

Oh please... as if...

[Kleerex]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von vamirez:

One thing that eternally bugs me is that CDPR gets a free pass for stuff that would utterly annihilate other studios. Apart from the fact that they ruined Cyberpunk2020, which I played a lot as a tabletop game in the late 90s, and even the creator doesn't give a damn...

Same as FromSoftware's fanbase. They basically released a game with most of the flaws from Dark Souls 2, and yet here we are, debating about whether it should be named Game Of The Decade.

FromSoftware can now release pretty much anything and their fans will eat it up and ask for more.

[vamirez]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kleerex:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von vamirez:

One thing that eternally bugs me is that CDPR gets a free pass for stuff that would utterly annihilate other studios. Apart from the fact that they ruined Cyberpunk2020, which I played a lot as a tabletop game in the late 90s, and even the creator doesn't give a damn...

Same as FromSoftware's fanbase. They basically released a game with most of the flaws from Dark Souls 2, and yet here we are, debating about whether it should be named Game Of The Decade.

FromSoftware can now release pretty much anything and their fans will eat it up and ask for more.

The difference is that a lot of bs is talked here about ER by those hating on it, while the above list, which is just about things that were promised and weren't in CP2077, is correct. There is a lot of bias going around, and it's not a good thing.

[Sayo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Senki:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kleerex:

Because they were rumors, not confirmed features. Most of the links in that thread point to some other Reddit post or a website reciting said rumors and speculations.

Even with missing features there are still more varied features left than in Elden RIng. No drinking estus with buddies (damn, even DS3 had this!), no jak races, no customizable mounts, nothing. Even questlines are vague, barebones and nonsensical (like, curing Millicent's rot with a needle pulled from a guy in rot lake).

They weren't rumors

Most of the points are taken from literal interviews with the devs or from their own gameplay showcases.

No they aren't. Most of the sources on that post have no contact with any official developers. One news article cited uses another reddit post as a source (a post not made by a developer)

[vamirez]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Johnny_B_80:

For what it's worth I actually had a lot of fun with CP2077, just going into it blind without knowing about the early promises (which probably helped). I also started late enough that most of the major bugs and issues were fixed and it was a smooth gameplay experience. Was it perfect? No, but it captivated me enough to finish it twice, and I'll do another playthrough when the DLC comes out. I finished ER once and never could be said to have a lot of fun, honestly.

Yes, I know it's only my personal opinion but this forum is filled with fanboys who think ER is the greatest thing since the invention of videogames and everything else is garbage, so...

It's great if you had fun with the game. Seriously. And if you didn't know the setting/background - that will probably have helped imo.

Also fine if another game is not your cup of tea.

However, your perception of the forum here is skewed. The "fanboys" are not the ones making a thread every day about how great the game is.

[vamirez]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sayo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Senki:

They weren't rumors

Most of the points are taken from literal interviews with the devs or from their own gameplay showcases.

No they aren't. Most of the sources on that post have no contact with any official developers. One news article cited uses another reddit post as a source (a post not made by a developer)

Again, why is this even a point of contention? You can literally just watch the videos published by CDPR pre-release, if you really need to mistrust this well-researched Reddit post.

[vamirez]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Senki:

Whatever I'm not gonna sit here all day to argue with the CDPR army.

Believe whatever you want.

It's funny how they immediately came out of the woodwork, too ;)

[Sayo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von vamirez:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sayo:

No they aren't. Most of the sources on that post have no contact with any official developers. One news article cited uses another reddit post as a source (a post not made by a developer)

Again, why is this even a point of contention?

Because when you make a claim then cite something and your citation is flimsy, it should be criticized.

You can literally just watch the videos published by CDPR pre-release, if you really need to mistrust this well-researched Reddit post.

Sure, they did promise a few things that didn't make it into the game, but nothing to the extend that reddit post makes it out to be.

[Senki]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von vamirez:

It's funny how they immediately came out of the woodwork, too ;)

Yeah it's like stepping on an anthill.

[Kleerex]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Senki:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kleerex:

Because they were rumors, not confirmed features. Most of the links in that thread point to some other Reddit post or a website reciting said rumors and speculations.

Even with missing features there are still more varied features left than in Elden RIng. No drinking estus with buddies (damn, even DS3 had this!), no jak races, no customizable mounts, nothing. Even questlines are vague, barebones and nonsensical (like, curing Millicent's rot with a needle pulled from a guy in rot lake).

They weren't rumors

Most of the points are taken from literal interviews with the devs or from their own gameplay showcases.

Stop coping fanboy.

The difference is ER never promised any of the nonsense you listed. CDPR did and messed it up big time.

Also games aren't a ''how many features can you fit in it'' contest. CP2077 has more features and none of them are done well so who cares. Quest choices are mostly pointless, the enemy variety non existent, the AI is braindead, the driving is worse than in GTAV which is a 2013 game etc.

ER put the barrier so low that it was basically impossible to fail. All they had to do is give players enough things to kill, and that's it. A lot of bosses and regular enemies feel like leftovers from previous games, and they also literally reused assets from previous games too without any reason. They ran their enemy/boss production conveyor at full capacity and used every leftover asset they could dig up.

ER is basically Bamco's Far Cry.

Cyberpunk 2077 had a whole lot of quests that together defined and described game world, which is further expanded by a plethora of notes scattered around the city. The story had plenty of characters I ended up caring about, like Panam or Judy. None of that in ER.

ER has item descriptions but its all lore. Nobody in The Lands Between knows or cares about some lowly Tarnished who ascends to the throne by killing everything that moves. You come to power by exterminating the whole population of your land. And that's the "good ending". The bad ending is the same but on top of everything else you also burn your whole land to ashes. Nice story, eh?

Game Of The Decade, ladies and gentlemen!

Don't even get me started on AI in ER, or we'll be here all day.

[vamirez]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sayo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von vamirez:

Again, why is this even a point of contention?

Because when you make a claim then cite something and your citation is flimsy, it should be criticized.

You can literally just watch the videos published by CDPR pre-release, if you really need to mistrust this well-researched Reddit post.

Sure, they did promise a few things that didn't make it into the game, but nothing to the extend that reddit post makes it out to be.

I find it fascinating how quick folks are to judge flimsy citation and have super-high standards for topics they have a different opinion about. I didn't even link that list btw.

Your second comment ("sure, they did promise...") is pure copium.

[vamirez]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kleerex:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Senki:

They weren't rumors

Most of the points are taken from literal interviews with the devs or from their own gameplay showcases.

Stop coping fanboy.

The difference is ER never promised any of the nonsense you listed. CDPR did and messed it up big time.

Also games aren't a ''how many features can you fit in it'' contest. CP2077 has more features and none of them are done well so who cares. Quest choices are mostly pointless, the enemy variety non existent, the AI is braindead, the driving is worse than in GTAV which is a 2013 game etc.

ER put the barrier so low that it was basically impossible to fail. All they had to do is give players enough things to kill, and that's it. A lot of bosses and regular enemies feel like leftovers from previous games, and they also literally reused assets from previous games too without any reason. They ran their enemy/boss production conveyor at full capacity and used every leftover asset they could dig up.

ER is basically Bamco's Far Cry.

Cyberpunk 2077 had a whole lot of quests that together defined and described game world, which is further expanded by a plethora of notes scattered around the city. The story had plenty of characters I ended up caring about, like Panam or Judy. None of that in ER.

ER has item descriptions but its all lore. Nobody in The Lands Between knows or cares about some lowly Tarnished who ascends to the throne by killing everything that moves. You come to power by exterminating the whole population of your land. And that's the "good ending". The bad ending is the same but on top of everything else you also burn your whole land to ashes. Nice story, eh?

Game Of The Decade, ladies and gentlemen!

This is some impressive level of biased bullcrap :)

[Kleerex]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von vamirez:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kleerex:

ER put the barrier so low that it was basically impossible to fail. All they had to do is give players enough things to kill, and that's it. A lot of bosses and regular enemies feel like leftovers from previous games, and they also literally reused assets from previous games too without any reason. They ran their enemy/boss production conveyor at full capacity and used every leftover asset they could dig up.

ER is basically Bamco's Far Cry.

Cyberpunk 2077 had a whole lot of quests that together defined and described game world, which is further expanded by a plethora of notes scattered around the city. The story had plenty of characters I ended up caring about, like Panam or Judy. None of that in ER.

ER has item descriptions but its all lore. Nobody in The Lands Between knows or cares about some lowly Tarnished who ascends to the throne by killing everything that moves. You come to power by exterminating the whole population of your land. And that's the "good ending". The bad ending is the same but on top of everything else you also burn your whole land to ashes. Nice story, eh?

Game Of The Decade, ladies and gentlemen!

This is some impressive level of biased bullcrap :)

Nice counter-argument!