How do you like Poison Armament?

[Lenox]

I've mostly used fire grease, but haven't messed around with armament spell enchantments much. How's this one? Is it serviceable for most situations? Or does it not have many good uses?

I will try it myself of course, but your answers are probably faster than me getting around to trying it in various situations. Also, there might be something I don't think of.

[Fineous🔥]

I only like ocult venomous fangs.

There are two types of poison, deadly and normal. Normal barely tickles and deadly can be considered just a bit weaker than rot.

So go enjoy some quality time in Caelid abandoned cavern and get yourself a pair of venomous fangs.

[Vinnolo]

if you arent arcane, you are better off using the ash poisonous mist or the incantation poison mist and use a buff that goes along with your build, or just use the bloodflame buff, which is better buff overall imo, and the requirements are almost the same

[Nihrahk]

Originally posted by 𝕱𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖔𝖚𝖘🔥:

I only like ocult venomous fangs.

There are two types of poison, deadly and normal. Normal barely tickles and deadly can be considered just a bit weaker than rot.

So go enjoy some quality time in Caelid abandoned cavern and get yourself a pair of venomous fangs.

If I remember correctly, only the venomous fangs and serpent bow can inflict deadly poison. Although I haven't really gone out of my way to test every poison weapon, item and spell so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[Fineous🔥]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Originally posted by 𝕱𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖔𝖚𝖘🔥:

I only like ocult venomous fangs.

There are two types of poison, deadly and normal. Normal barely tickles and deadly can be considered just a bit weaker than rot.

So go enjoy some quality time in Caelid abandoned cavern and get yourself a pair of venomous fangs.

If I remember correctly, only the venomous fangs and serpent bow can inflict deadly poison. Although I haven't really gone out of my way to test every poison weapon, item and spell so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I think there was also a short blade and a katana. But i find fangs and the bow (infinite serpent arrows from a Caelid merchant) the best way to combine it with rot and apply it asap.

Get the fire giant or the scumbag Astel from the tunnel rot and deadly poisoned and watch them melt like a candle!

[Scheneighnay]

Poison has never been good in Dark Souls either.

The problem is in how status effects work. Takes so many hits to actually inflict poison that by the time it starts doing damage, whatever you were hitting has about 10% of its health left from you swinging on it anyway.

[Lenox]

Originally posted by 𝕱𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖔𝖚𝖘🔥:

I only like occult venomous fangs.

There are two types of poison, deadly and normal. Normal barely tickles and deadly can be considered just a bit weaker than rot.

So go enjoy some quality time in Caelid abandoned cavern and get yourself a pair of venomous fangs.

I haven't tried Venomous Fangs yet, but I plan to at some point. Poison Armament would be for a big weapon character. But good to know!

Originally posted by Vinnolo:

if you aren't arcane, you are better off using the ash poisonous mist or the incantation poison mist and use a buff that goes along with your build, or just use the bloodflame buff, which is better buff overall imo, and the requirements are almost the same

That's unfortunate. Is there a way to tell that Poison Armament scales with Arcane? I'm having trouble with figuring that out. It's not even listed on the wiki. Whereas Bloodflame Blade reads: Does not scale with Arcane even when wearing the Dragon Communion Seal.

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Poison has never been good in Dark Souls either.

The problem is in how status effects work. Takes so many hits to actually inflict poison that by the time it starts doing damage, whatever you were hitting has about 10% of its health left from you swinging on it anyway.

Never really tried it consistently, so that makes sense. Would you say it's better for small, fast weapons then? For faster application?

[chriszewski]

I prefer poisonbone darts, having something more immediately effective on my weapon, but i generally only use poison for bosses.

[Lenox]

Originally posted by chriszewski:

I prefer poisonbone darts, having something more immediately effective on my weapon, but i generally only use poison for bosses.

Did you find them useful for most bosses?

[Tetsuya_Kurogane]

The mist do well. The buildup chain better on a boss that approach you slowly.
Frost mist alike can proc on the spot.

Also, the weapon coating giva a stronger buildup. A frost value would be even stronger on a Cold type.

[Yal]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Originally posted by 𝕱𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖔𝖚𝖘🔥:

I only like ocult venomous fangs.

There are two types of poison, deadly and normal. Normal barely tickles and deadly can be considered just a bit weaker than rot.

So go enjoy some quality time in Caelid abandoned cavern and get yourself a pair of venomous fangs.

If I remember correctly, only the venomous fangs and serpent bow can inflict deadly poison. Although I haven't really gone out of my way to test every poison weapon, item and spell so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

The Coiled Shield also causes deadly poison instead of regular poison (it's a really fun weapon)



Also how about the Poison Moth Flight ash-of-war? Deals bonus damage to poisoned targets, and you can make your weapon permanently poisonous by slapping it on. Haven't really checked out how strong it is, but it could be cool to know it exists. (You get it by beating a Night's Cavalry on the Caelid highway)

[Tetsuya_Kurogane]

Even at low arcane you can gather poison buildup. But somthing infused with a Arcane Stat will have much higher return.

My poison recipe:

Always wear your Perfurmer cosplay armor. A exultatation talisman for your dps is advised.

Perfume poison mouth fume thingy. The wiki says it has the strongest coefficient for tick damage.
Thats a different mist then the Ash of War. Combine maybe?

Green rocks in their face.
In the Caleid highway shop, you get fire arrows and a bundle of poison item.
Buy the darts, sure, but try the stone clumps.



Turn your extra money into arrow too. It is the northest merchant of Caelid. Standing close to the divine tower

A Deadly type source to apply the proc will have stronger tick but last half as long.
Take some alternate source: Mist, throwable, poison grease.
Start a buildup annd hit with your Deadly (I like the R2 of Serbentbone katana.)

[Tetsuya_Kurogane]

Originally posted by Yal:

The Coiled Shield also causes deadly poison instead of regular poison (it's a really fun weapon)



Also how about the Poison Moth Flight ash-of-war? Deals bonus damage to poisoned targets, and you can make your weapon permanently poisonous by slapping it on. Haven't really checked out how strong it is, but it could be cool to know it exists. (You get it by beating a Night's Cavalry on the Caelid highway)

Poison Moth is hard to land and offer something unique. It is in the Dealdy poison type. However, it is to be used on a target that is already poisoned.
A finisher. On hit it will end the current poison. Turn it into a % Dmg. Simillar to a bleed proc.

The ultimate finishing move to a poison enthusiast.

[chriszewski]

Originally posted by Lenox:

Originally posted by chriszewski:

I prefer poisonbone darts, having something more immediately effective on my weapon, but i generally only use poison for bosses.

Did you find them useful for most bosses?

Generally. It's pretty easy to fire off 6-12 pretty rapidly to proc early in a fight and then you're free to gouge the boss's health with a more damaging weapon affinity/buff/grease. Early in the game, a full proc duration can eclipse the amount of damage you can do in even a short amount of time, and i generally use it more early on in a new journey. I use them much less post-capital, since my builds usually have damage sorted at that point, but the only time they aren't effective is on the handful (or two) of bosses that are either immune, or don't really have a lot of HP, or other methods are more effective (holy for deathbirds/shades, fire for cleanrots, etc).

I usually make/buy ~200 darts total.

Personally, i haven't found a situation where poison on my weapon -through affinity or buff- was the best in any situation vs anything else i had access to.

[Lenox]

Originally posted by chriszewski:

Originally posted by Lenox:

Did you find them useful for most bosses?

Generally. It's pretty easy to fire off 6-12 pretty rapidly to proc early in a fight and then you're free to gouge the boss's health with a more damaging weapon affinity/buff/grease. Early in the game, a full proc duration can eclipse the amount of damage you can do in even a short amount of time, and i generally use it more early on in a new journey. I use them much less post-capital, since my builds usually have damage sorted at that point, but the only time they aren't effective is on the handful (or two) of bosses that are either immune, or don't really have a lot of HP, or other methods are more effective (holy for deathbirds/shades, fire for cleanrots, etc).

I usually make/buy ~200 darts total.

Personally, i haven't found a situation where poison on my weapon -through affinity or buff- was the best in any situation vs anything else i had access to.

Interesting! Thanks. Maybe the enchantment is for people that don't have the runes to stock up on the darts?

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by Lenox:

Originally posted by 𝕱𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖔𝖚𝖘🔥:

I only like occult venomous fangs.

There are two types of poison, deadly and normal. Normal barely tickles and deadly can be considered just a bit weaker than rot.

So go enjoy some quality time in Caelid abandoned cavern and get yourself a pair of venomous fangs.

I haven't tried Venomous Fangs yet, but I plan to at some point. Poison Armament would be for a big weapon character. But good to know!

Originally posted by Vinnolo:

if you aren't arcane, you are better off using the ash poisonous mist or the incantation poison mist and use a buff that goes along with your build, or just use the bloodflame buff, which is better buff overall imo, and the requirements are almost the same

That's unfortunate. Is there a way to tell that Poison Armament scales with Arcane? I'm having trouble with figuring that out. It's not even listed on the wiki. Whereas Bloodflame Blade reads: Does not scale with Arcane even when wearing the Dragon Communion Seal.

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Poison has never been good in Dark Souls either.

The problem is in how status effects work. Takes so many hits to actually inflict poison that by the time it starts doing damage, whatever you were hitting has about 10% of its health left from you swinging on it anyway.

Never really tried it consistently, so that makes sense. Would you say it's better for small, fast weapons then? For faster application?

Definitely small fast weapons, arrows and darts especially as was stated or just the poison spells.