Why does everyone have a problem with seamless coop

[Scrambled onions]

It's funny how the invasion sweats like to say the seamless coop users are "pvp noobs who want a handheld experience" when 90% of us just want to be able to play with friends without restrictions or better duels with the pvp option

[mldb88]

Originally posted by Shinkiro:

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

Seamless coop scales Boss HP much harder than original Elden Ring.
Its 100% more hp and 100% more status resistance instead of 60% more HP and 50% more status resistance
So if you dont use Spirit summons Seamless coop is a lot harder than normal coop thats in the game ;)

It doesnt make them "harder" it makes them dies slightly slower, thats it, nothing about the AI changes. 2-3 People still trivialises everything the exact same way it does in vanilla. The mod creator even says it makes it easier, and the additions dont really change anything at all for the difficulty except allowing even more phantoms in and avoiding invasions which trivialises the game ever further.

Sooo if the only change to bosses is that it scales them harder than normal ER... wouldn't that in fact just make bosses harder due to making the fight longer, and providing more opportunities for players to make a mistake if everything else stays the same?

[an entire Roman legion]

I'm doing a seamless run RN with a buddy and Radahn is annihilating our bottoms..

[mldb88]

Originally posted by Albob:

I'm doing a seamless run RN with a buddy and Radahn is annihilating our bottoms..

Oh god... considering what was mentioned earlier about how seamless scaling works... does that apply to all the NPC summons too? If so... OH GOD.....OH GOOOOOD

[Darth Invader]

I hate it. I'll tell you why.

The creators of the mod also have the only known RCE strike on record.

Other than that, basically the fact that you're removing a core element of the game, and then claim "It's not cheating", which is laughable.

Yeah, that's about it. See ya.

[DayLight1943]

The creators of the mod also have the only known RCE strike on record.

what do you mean by "RCE strike"?

lukeyui created seamless, and blue sentinel from ds3, and he is NOT the person who RCE'd grim and got the servers shut down. that was a different modder. i am acquainted with the guy who RCE'd grim and was watching the stream when it happened live. it was not luke.

[causality]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Because not having as many invasion opportunities inconveniences them slightly and thier enjoyment is more important than yours of course. 😜

Not really. You have a summoning/invasion pool size that builds up slowly over time. If 100,000,000 players went to the co-op mod and only 1,000 stayed behind, you'd still not even get matched with all those 1000 players. Basically, it doesn't hurt invaders in the slightest and we still get instant invasions in all brackets unless you're playing at extremely high levels.

[Cheesed to meet you]

I don't use it but didn't realize ppl have a problem with it. It does not hurt anyone, least of all invaders, at least the decent ones, the ones that usually invade for a challenge, be it taunters tongue chads or a gank squad.

A coop group that does not want to be invaded, most of the time will not be good at pvp, so basically all seamless coop thing does is remove the "easy targets", and the ones that complain just rat themselves out as bullies.

[Sonnenbank]

Originally posted by ♤Scrambled onions♤:

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

First of all your original statement is wrong.
"Why does everybody hate seamless coop ?"
Like 4-6 guys on the Steam forums hate it.
Thats not everybody

so far more than 1 million people (individual downloads) have played seamless coop.

1 Million people vs like 4-6 guys on steam.-.....
and you say the 4-6 guys is everybody ?

2nd


Seamless coop is easier than solo , but its definitely harder than coop bossfights without mod.

Seamless coop scales Boss HP much harder than original Elden Ring.
Its 100% more hp and 100% more status resistance instead of 60% more HP and 50% more status resistance

Reason for this is that in Seamless coop you can use Spirit Summons while doing coop , which is not possible in normal coop. So since thats possible the mod scales HP and status resistance much harder than ER original coop

So if you dont use Spirit summons Seamless coop is a lot harder than normal coop thats in the game ;)

Lmao, do you realize when people say "everybody" they don't literally mean everybody, get your head out of your ass and and actually read the main point which is people who do invasion are mad

I am aware you dont mean everybody .....
but you seam not to be aware that your statement is just wrong to an extend its laughable
you make it sound that a big majority of players have a problem with seamless coop
Thats just not the case....

seamless coop is loved by most people and only hated by very few people ...
in fact so few people that it doesnt matter at all.

better change the title to :

Why are the 5 players who do invasions are mad......
your topic is based on a false assumption

[Sparhawk 59]

Some feel its cheating the system, some hate it because they cant twink invade and kill noobs so robs them of that. To be honest its a game all aspects are part of them but modding DS games has been a thing for years so let those who want to invade do so with those who dont mind and the rest play offline or Mod and remember its just a game no need for anger, stress just chill out and enjoy these great games

[Sean Maxhell]

If you use seamless coop, then you're not really playing Elden Ring as it should be played.
This makes you a miserable person and unworthy of being part of the souls community.
It literally makes you a cheater, and there would be no problem if it were a single player game, if you like to pretend you played this game, but lately this mod is affecting the game's multiplayer, and for this reason it should be eradicated.

[an entire Roman legion]

Originally posted by mldb88:

Originally posted by Albob:

I'm doing a seamless run RN with a buddy and Radahn is annihilating our bottoms..

Oh god... considering what was mentioned earlier about how seamless scaling works... does that apply to all the NPC summons too? If so... OH GOD.....OH GOOOOOD

hmmm good question

[BoD[6-4]]

Originally posted by ZTL-Altima:

(...) is because it is both cheating and easy mode, easy mode being just the natural consequence of cheating. Motives to what an individual says that does not matter.

PvP sucks anyway, so ER getting PvP activity or not also does not matter, but it is fine even without cheat users since there's so many people.

*Me finding the game easier when playing alone* "What do you mean?"

[BoD[6-4]]

The ones having a problem with the mod simply hate the fact the people improve their own fun, they want the seamless users to value more the invader's fun over their own fun.

Just ignore them, they don't deserve attention

[BoD[6-4]]

Originally posted by Sean Maxhell:

If you use seamless coop, then you're not really playing Elden Ring as it should be played.
This makes you a miserable person and unworthy of being part of the souls community.
It literally makes you a cheater, and there would be no problem if it were a single player game, if you like to pretend you played this game, but lately this mod is affecting the game's multiplayer, and for this reason it should be eradicated.

Oh no, how I could I live my life now? A delusional toxic player said that I'm miserable... well guess that I'll keep playing however it makes it more fun to me and keep not caring about not being part of the fun of someone I don't literally care about

ps. I already beated vanilla once and I'm never coming back (even if now I'm playing alone)

[Scrambled onions]

Originally posted by Sean Maxhell:

If you use seamless coop, then you're not really playing Elden Ring as it should be played.
This makes you a miserable person and unworthy of being part of the souls community.
It literally makes you a cheater, and there would be no problem if it were a single player game, if you like to pretend you played this game, but lately this mod is affecting the game's multiplayer, and for this reason it should be eradicated.

Then tell me why the majority of seamless players have at least 1 ng+ account on base game and are usually either extremely skilled in pve or pvp