ELDEN RING

ELDEN RING

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I hate this game, make me like it...
I've been eyeing this one for a while and finally decided to go with it as DayZ is too unstructured and Diablo 4 is...repetitive. However I cannot figure out how to "play" this game as there is not much direction and every enemy is stronger than necessary at my level. I'm 5.2hrs in and Steam won't refund my money so I'm stuck. I loved Skyrim, Fallout, Jedi order but this game has me frustrated AF. Any input from anyone who started this way?

/rant
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SunfireKnight86 Jul 30, 2023 @ 8:38pm 
This game has very structured stretches with big areas of "do whatever you want" in between. It's not really like the other games you mentioned. If you go into it expecting Skyrim not only will it seem bizarre, it'll maul you. It's very much a "learn to love losing and then you won't lose anymore" kinda game.
breadman Jul 30, 2023 @ 8:39pm 
watch some beginner videos on youtube
This PC Jul 30, 2023 @ 8:51pm 
I mean, there's nothing to tell you but "you should persevere, it gets better".
I'm an almost 40 years old casual with poor eyesight and poor reflexes, I picked up all of the dark souls games, but they never really clicked for me. I picked this up when it released because all my friends were playing and you know.. hype, and at about 20h in, I was exhausted, like most dark souls games.
I recently picked it up with some energy to spare on it again, and about at the 25h mark, I started trying stuff I had picked up, and things started to click. I found some really good things I had picked up along the way that I hadn't tried. I started actually clearing with very little effort ? rofl.
At about 40 hours in, I had enough levels in and I had a pretty strong sorcery build with lots of options, and I strolled through the rest of the game with very little issues. At that point, everything had clicked into place, and that remains with you. I started a new purely melee character with very little shenanigans, I'm not even rune farming to outlevel content, and I'm having very little issues progressing.
Most modern games are designed to make you feel good at them, even when you most definitely are not. This game is designed to take that illusion away, it definitely tells you when you're not good, rofl, but at the same time, it makes it really precious when you get to the point where things click into place, and this is, in my opinion, the main draw of this game. If a game always tells you you're really good at it, being good loses its luster. If a game isn't afraid to tell you you're doing bad, you get this massive dopamine hit everytime you overcome and you realize you're getting better. It's really hard to explain and communicate to someone who's struggling against margit at the beginning rofl. Games mostly worked like that in the past, like, NES/SNES era. ^^''
This game isn't actually very hard, especially when you consider all the options you have, rather, it's obtuse and complicated, and I feel the fact people think it's hard is more because they compare it to modern game design than the game being actually hard.

About not knowing what to do, just go around with your horse, if you see something in the distance, go there, check it out, rinse, repeat. If you want to progress, follow the beams of light from sites of grace. ^^''

If you have questions and specific issues you're encountering, people here can certainly help you if you ask with details. Another thing is, hum, if modern game design puts a monster in front of you, it's telling you you're meant to overcome it, Elden Ring doesn't work like that at all. If something slams you too hard, it's perfectly legit to go around it.

I'll close this with frustration is part of the experience, it makes overcoming much, much sweeter in the end however. Don't give up! ♥
Last edited by This PC; Jul 30, 2023 @ 8:56pm
ajv941 Jul 30, 2023 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by Neil Patrick Harris:
I hate this game, make me like it...
If you don't, Todd Howard will re-release Skyrim: Android edition - pay to access and complete with features such as lootboxes and 20 dollar (horse) skins - then henceforth commit to the monetization of all mods created for Bethesda games.
Last edited by ajv941; Jul 30, 2023 @ 8:57pm
SunfireKnight86 Jul 30, 2023 @ 8:58pm 
Originally posted by ajv941:
Originally posted by Neil Patrick Harris:
I hate this game, make me like it...
If you don't, Todd Howard will re-release Skyrim: Android edition - pay to access and complete with features such as lootboxes and 20 dollar (horse) skins - then henceforth commit to the monetization of all mods created for Bethesda games.
*Laughs in Skyrim in Space coming out next month*
This PC Jul 30, 2023 @ 8:59pm 
Originally posted by ajv941:
Originally posted by Neil Patrick Harris:
I hate this game, make me like it...
If you don't, Todd Howard will re-release Skyrim: Android edition - pay to access and complete with features such as lootboxes and 20 dollar (horse) skins - then henceforth commit to the monetization of all mods created for Bethesda games.

Rofl brother, that's not helpful at all. ;p
raditzaceme2 Jul 30, 2023 @ 9:08pm 
The easiest way to get started from my experience is to go astrologer and follow a beginners mage guide. Getting gear set up allows you to survive and fight enemies on somewhat equal footing to obtain runes to use for lvling to fight harder enemies to get more runes to fight harder enemies, etc. After I got started getting runes, i shoved almost every single point into int. Never need mind if you can one shot mooks with a single glintstone pebble or a nights comet. Do i still die? Of course, i can get one shot by almost everything. But as a mage, i also have time to move and dodge, which will help with getting ready for a melee build where dodging will be every single swing probably.
SunfireKnight86 Jul 30, 2023 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by raditzaceme2:
The easiest way to get started from my experience is to go astrologer and follow a beginners mage guide. Getting gear set up allows you to survive and fight enemies on somewhat equal footing to obtain runes to use for lvling to fight harder enemies to get more runes to fight harder enemies, etc. After I got started getting runes, i shoved almost every single point into int. Never need mind if you can one shot mooks with a single glintstone pebble or a nights comet. Do i still die? Of course, i can get one shot by almost everything. But as a mage, i also have time to move and dodge, which will help with getting ready for a melee build where dodging will be every single swing probably.
If you want the game to be easy just get a spear and a tower shield. Trivializes literally 90% of the game (You just hold block and can attack while blocking. It's zero brain) and only gets stronger as you get access to better gear. You can do it in the first two hours of the game.
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This PC Jul 30, 2023 @ 9:12pm 
Originally posted by SunfireKnight86:
If you want the game to be easy just get a spear and a tower shield. Trivializes literally 90% of the game and only gets stronger as you get access to better gear. You can do it in the first two hours of the game.

Only really works if you're experienced at the game, and well, also, goal is to let the dude figure it out organically and find what he's most comfortable with.
DevilDaRebel Jul 30, 2023 @ 9:30pm 
Originally posted by Neil Patrick Harris:
I've been eyeing this one for a while and finally decided to go with it as DayZ is too unstructured and Diablo 4 is...repetitive. However I cannot figure out how to "play" this game as there is not much direction and every enemy is stronger than necessary at my level. I'm 5.2hrs in and Steam won't refund my money so I'm stuck. I loved Skyrim, Fallout, Jedi order but this game has me frustrated AF. Any input from anyone who started this way?

/rant
This game is about trial and error, simple. Explore at your own pace, enemy too hard? Go somewhere else and try to loot stronger equipment/power-ups to go back and defeat said hard enemy.
Sir Happy Jul 30, 2023 @ 9:43pm 
Summon you're ghost to help would be a start also you like being up closs an personal look at katakana/heavy big ass swords/clubs you like being a long rang sisy cat use magic its op on like 80% of enemy's some bosses have like 40% to 80% resist though. Also you items to buff stast's of you attack before boss fights and use FLASK OF WONDROUS PHYSICK thing will help. Just look up where to get the items you need 4 you're build or just wing it with this knowledge.
mldb88 Jul 30, 2023 @ 10:18pm 
Not sure what you've found or what you have access to yet, but a few tips for starting out without just telling you "how" to play:

-If something feels like it's impossibly hard for the stage of the game you're in, it probably is and you should come back to it later... at least in the early game. Prime example is the Tree Sentinel (golden horse dude) right outside of the tutorial area. He's meant to teach you it's ok to come back to some things later and not everything is meant to be done right away.

-Be purposeful and deliberate with combat. If you go in button mashing like it's a spectacle brawler like DMC or Beyonetta, or hacking away like in Skyrim, this game is going to hand your ass to you on a platter. Learn the enemy patterns for stronger enemies. If you're playing melee, learn when to dodge and when it's safe to attack depending on your weapons (for example heavy weapons can stagger, but your slow attacks can be interrupted), if you went with a spellcaster to start, pay attention to which attacks have long recovery animations and when you're safe to start casting if the enemy can close distance quickly. Combat in this game is almost like a dance, finding the rythm of your opponent and when to make your moves.

-Level Vigor to start. Weapon upgrades add more damage than pure stats, so only focus on the stats needed to hit the minimum stat requirements for the weapon you plan on using and focus getting vigor to at least 30. This will give you a lot more health and allow a little more room for error.

-Get the spirit calling bell from Ranni if you haven' already. She shows up at night in the Church of Marika I believe? Basically that church just right of where the tutorial spits you out, where the merchant is. This will let you get spirit ashes you can use in certain areas as summons, which can help take some heat off if you aren't comfortable with a boss's patterns or if fighting a certain boss just 1v1 is giving you a lot of trouble.

-Dont be afraid to die, and don't let it get to you. This is one of those games where you kind of learn from dying (hell, there are a few cheap shots you won't be able to even see coming from some bosses the first time around on a blind playthrough, though they're very few and far between). Take every death as a learning experience.

-Take breaks. If you're getting tilted, odds are you'll just end up playing sloppy. If you need a break, step away from it, or go explore somewhere else for a while.

-Fighting everything isn't always the best option. There are some situations where it's beneficial to just run past an enemy and just.... not deal with it. Enemies do tend to chase a pretty good distance though, so if you are running past it's usually good to have a plan or know you can make it to safety (through a door they cant fit in, or up an elevator or through a boss door or to some other relative safety).

As for specific places to go in the early game to help you get your bearings:

-Follow the way the graces are pointing you to go if you haven't already. This will lead you to the first real story boss of the game. Now... he WILL kick you ass, but losing to him will unlock the Round Table Hold the next time you rest at a grace, which is kind of like the safe hub. There are a few NPCs that can teach you different spells, a shop which you can upgrade by offering bell bearings you find, and a blacksmith who can upgrade your weapons. There's also a few items you can find tucked away as well, and NPCs you meet may end up in the hold as you complete parts of their quests and give you item rewards. It's just a good thing to have access to all the shops/smithing in one place.

-Follow the road north-east after the encampment (away from the gate with the giant troll ambush) as well as the road east of the tutorial area. There are a few things to find up in that direction, including an NPC who sells weapon arts, items you can use to upgrade both how many healing flasks you have and their effectiveness, and the wondrous physic, which you essentially 'set' to do a variety of different things when used, ranging from healing, hp regen, stamina regen, to blowing yourself up damaging everything around you. You unlock options as you beat certain mini bosses scattered around the map. You'll also find a Selen, who sells spells (she's a bit tough to find, she's underground in a ruin inhabited by a ton of angry plant enemies with a miniboss before her room). You'll also end up facing a Tibia Mariner all the way north east which will start another collectible side quest, and if you head south east and across the bridge there's a castle that can basically help prepare you for some of the more difficult areas (basically treat it like a proving ground. If you can get through Castle Mourne, you've mastered the basics of the game's combat and are ready to try moving past Limgrave and onto other areas).
ShadowDark3 Jul 30, 2023 @ 11:14pm 
If you've only tried one of the starting classes, you may want to try starting fresh with a different one and see if you enjoy using a different kind of weapon. Using a weapon that fits your play style can make a huge difference.
toiletooth Jul 30, 2023 @ 11:25pm 
start with a strength build if you’re new, or wizard. that’s what i do first for every souls game. i hated sekuro when everyone else loved it and felt bad for that. maybe the game just isn’t for you, but in the off chance you’re looking for an alive as ♥♥♥ game with a vibrant pvp world embedded, here’s one that 1000+ hours deep has made me so happy. i have friends who hate the pvp aspect. i keep trying to convince them it would be fun for them, but usually fail. meh. i can’t stand games that hold my hand, so souls games are one of the rare af games that can do this for me, and terreria, weirdly. that game is even deeper.
Sirius Jul 31, 2023 @ 12:27am 
Originally posted by Neil Patrick Harris:
I hate this game, make me like it...
Absolutely not.

Really dumb thing to ask, sorry.

You don't like it, you gave it a semi-serious go, the end.
Your fault for trying longer than 2 hours, although you may still try to push past the automated refund message and discuss it with a support staff member, they are known for refunding past the hard limits if you have a really good reason.

But in any case:
Go play something you do like and don't ask strangers to make you like something you don't.
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