By far the weakest fromsoft souls game and extremely ovverated

[SoulSlayer]

I’m probably gonna get a lot of fromsoft apologists in comments attacking me for expressing my opinion, but eh ♥♥♥♥ it. Finally finished the game with an all bosses run. And I really don’t get the hype around this game. It really isn’t challenging at all and the only hard bosses are ones like Melania that has a tracking instant combo kill or aoe. I was expecting more I unique and challenging bosses like Ludwig, Artorius, Nameless King, Midir, Ishin the sword saint ect probably more bosses from preivious fromsoft games I havnt mentioned. Once I got around those types of attacks none of the bosses in this game felt unique or challenging compared to fromsofts previous entries. Second issue I have is just open world it feels really empty and bland like it’s a Ubisoft game. Just massive space for the sake of it. No incentive to explore the open world itself. When I got into castles or legacy dungeons it got much more enjoyable since thats where souls like games work best. Linear/semi linear worlds. No engaging questline. I can’t count the same dark souls fetch quest as a questline. All I cared about was fighting bosses which got boring fast too due to them rehashing the same fights. I really hope fromsoft doesn’t make another open world souls like game. For me to accept open world in souls like they need to overhaul their storytelling and quest lines from just it being told through items and give us a narrative. Tbh their storytelling always felt something out of an early access game. Just one of those generic vague ways of telling story. That’s the biggest reason this game is just so lackluster for me. The game is still pretty decent tho. But no masterpiece or GOTY.

Edit: the reason I posted here is because I’d like to have a genuine discussion what you all find better and challenging in the world and bosses than previous fromsoft games.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Първоначално публикувано от Scuzz:

Първоначално публикувано от Lyrik46807:

Well, your opinion is yours and my opinion is mine, so there is no reason for any attack.
I like Elden Ring and the open world, the working crafting system, my horse and the horse combat.

The last DS i played was DS 2, but the despawning of the enemies broke the game for me, because it limits yours ressources and your possibilties to try out a lot of different gears in one playthrough. Because of that I never looked back to DS2.

Bonfire aescetics. How does enemies despawning after 15 deaths limit your resources? DS2 wasn't perfect but it is still a better game than most.

This is to teach the player not to waste souls.

[TuskSpin]

Първоначално публикувано от Totsumaggokin:

Първоначално публикувано от Bishap:

Artorious, Midir, are both DLC bosses. Name me any FS game that has that much cool bosses like Radahn, Malenia, Mogh, Morgot, Maliketh, Godfrey, Radagon, we already have 7 very interesting boss fights (if you are overlevelled and oneshoted some of them you are free to try sl1 run, i did it once, and it was a very fun experience, while obviously also challenging). In DS3 i can say Pontiff was fun, Nameless King, Cinder dude, Dragonslayer armor, champion gundyr - 5 really interesting S tier boss fights. So i don't really understand the complaint about bosses and what is the point in comparing them to DLC ones. I am 100% sure Shadow of the Erd Tree will bring us our own Midir/Gael/Friede

Only Godfrey and Radahn are interesting imo. That would be 2 from 157 boss encounters.

I still think that Nameless king is a boring boss. First phase is fighting the camera and second phase is just 90% delayed attacks for no reason. DS3 has Pontiff, Abyss watchers, Dancer, Souls of Cinder, Champion gundyr and Lothric/lorian as good base game bosses imo.

BB has Logarius, Gascoigne, Gherman (maybe the best final boss besides Isshin so far) and maybe Mergo's wet nurse as very good bosses.

Sekiro has also a ton of good bosses.

There is no excuse that Elden Ring bosses are as bad as they are, especially as the newest entry.

Dude listed the two bosses reddit goons to then dipped. Are we really going to trust a redditor's opinion?

[KG]

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Първоначално публикувано от Bishap:

Artorious, Midir, are both DLC bosses. Name me any FS game that has that much cool bosses like Radahn, Malenia, Mogh, Morgot, Maliketh, Godfrey, Radagon, we already have 7 very interesting boss fights (if you are overlevelled and oneshoted some of them you are free to try sl1 run, i did it once, and it was a very fun experience, while obviously also challenging). In DS3 i can say Pontiff was fun, Nameless King, Cinder dude, Dragonslayer armor, champion gundyr - 5 really interesting S tier boss fights. So i don't really understand the complaint about bosses and what is the point in comparing them to DLC ones. I am 100% sure Shadow of the Erd Tree will bring us our own Midir/Gael/Friede

Only Godfrey and Radahn are interesting imo. That would be 2 from 157 boss encounters.

I still think that Nameless king is a boring boss. First phase is fighting the camera and second phase is just 90% delayed attacks for no reason. DS3 has Pontiff, Abyss watchers, Dancer, Souls of Cinder, Champion gundyr and Lothric/lorian as good base game bosses imo.

BB has Logarius, Gascoigne, Gherman (maybe the best final boss besides Isshin so far) and maybe Mergo's wet nurse as very good bosses.

Sekiro has also a ton of good bosses.

There is no excuse that Elden Ring bosses are as bad as they are, especially as the newest entry.

Nope all the bosses are great. All they need is better duo boss AI and more hp for Maliketh and Fortissax

[Exorcista]

youre trolling bcs that title belongs to dark souls 2

[Burger]

Why do you even want to have a discussion about it? You dont like the game and are playing Spyro. That's great man. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with your opinion at all. But why do you (and everyone else who posts this) HAVE to talk about it? Like just move on? In general why would anyone ever want to spend time talking about something they're not interested in?

[CourtesyFlush09]

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That's great man. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with your opinion at all. But why do you (and everyone else who posts this) HAVE to talk about it? Like just move on?

To trigger people who like the game.

It is amusing though since it works nearly every time lol.

[königplatzen]

Първоначално публикувано от CourtesyFlush90:

Първоначално публикувано от Benjunt:

That's great man. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with your opinion at all. But why do you (and everyone else who posts this) HAVE to talk about it? Like just move on?

To trigger people who like the game.

It is amusing though since it works nearly every time lol.

Sometimes, some good discussions can evolve from those edgy takes. Based opinions don't trigger and often get ignored.

[KG]

Първоначално публикувано от Benjunt:

Why do you even want to have a discussion about it? You dont like the game and are playing Spyro. That's great man. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with your opinion at all. But why do you (and everyone else who posts this) HAVE to talk about it? Like just move on? In general why would anyone ever want to spend time talking about something they're not interested in?

because it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awesome dude

[Backstabba]

Първоначално публикувано от CourtesyFlush90:

To trigger people who like the game.

It is amusing though since it works nearly every time lol.

Yep and its also kinda sad how saying anything negative about ER or saying anything positive about DS2 will trigger so many people.

[SoulSlayer]

Първоначално публикувано от Benjunt:

Why do you even want to have a discussion about it? You dont like the game and are playing Spyro. That's great man. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with your opinion at all. But why do you (and everyone else who posts this) HAVE to talk about it? Like just move on? In general why would anyone ever want to spend time talking about something they're not interested in?

Never state I dislike or am not interested in ER. I think it along with all fromsoft souls like games are fun and good. Just prefer every previous game to this and like to hear from others what people find challenging about ER bosses in general, whether you think it’s easier than the previous games and what is it you all find engaging about the open world.

[Ahhtaczy]

I enjoyed Elden Ring even though it wasn't particularly challenging. Though this is my first FromSoft game, I will definitely have to try the earlier entries on the Souls series. But I'm a big fan of open world games that you can customize your character, get cool gear, and have a sense of well earned progression.

They tried something different, I feel like a lot of veteran players are angry about the lack of boss variety and difficulty but aren't even playing on NG+ high enough to have an actual challenge.

Their idea of a new game does not have to be your idea of a new game. Looking at the copies sold and the reviews, you are in the minority of people.

[königplatzen]

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Първоначално публикувано от CourtesyFlush90:

To trigger people who like the game.

It is amusing though since it works nearly every time lol.

Yep and its also kinda sad how saying anything negative about ER or saying anything positive about DS2 will trigger so many people.

It's totally normal. You are in a forum which consist mainly of ER-fans and many also played former games and have their opinion about them.

[grimius]

I Respect your opinion, yet in my opinion, elden ring is better than ds3, ds2 and other fromsoft titles infact (apart from maybe bloodborn).

I personally believe the open world nature of the game is a massive strength, i see a lot of people who dislike it due to it being 'repetitive' and also sometimes 'boring to explore' yet i personally disagree. Yes some bosses are repeats yet i always love exploring all the different caves and catacombs scattered around the world and solving the puzzles in which some of them contain. I do see where you are coming from with the bosses being repeats, that is pretty disappointing. There are also multiple different structures all around the world, and again while a lot of them feel like repeats, they all have their own little gimmick. Take the sorcerers towers you can find all around the world. They each require a small little puzzle to enter them and as you go deeper in the game you can find that said puzzles begin to get more difficult.

I also think Elden ring is very unique, I love all 3 dark souls game's yet i feel the fact they all follow a linear path is what makes Elden ring stand out so much. It's different. Elden rings magic is also a direct improvement to other titles in my opinion. I feel it LOOKS far better and there is a massive variety of spells and incantations. When it comes to other weapons as well, there are so many options compared to ds3, we have many scythes, many twin blades, great-swords ect. The ash of war system is also a fantastic feature, and whenever i get around to playing ds3 or ds1, im always rather disappointed i cannot do similar things.

When it comes to bosses, i have mixed feelings. I partially agree with what you said, the bosses in elden ring (other than that little ♥♥♥♥♥ malenia) do tend to be easier. Yet to say they are EASY is in my opinion incorrect. DS3 bosses in particular are golden, they are fantastic masterpieces which is why i think a lot of people were disappointed with Elden rings bosses. Elden rings bosses are not as powerful yet that realy doesn't mean they are not unique. The fire giant is a very unique boss, what i wish yhorm could have been. And bosses like elden beat are visual masterpieces. Mohg has some very unique abilities and malenia is an optional boss for those that really want to test their skill with her unique move-set.

I would say that elden ring is easier than dark souls if you make it easier. Elden rings unique world design means you can fight bosses from level 20- 50 at the same point. Elden ring isn't so much about rushing from boss to boss, its about taking it slow and taking your time to explore the vast world and pick up all the items you can find along your way. I played DS3 first and after coming to elden ring i faced a similar problem to what apparently a lot of its player came across, it felt boring and just a bad game. Yet once i got in a few hours i realised my mistake was i was viewing this as a souls game which it is not.

In my opinion, Elden ring is the strongest fromsoft title, I think it is a perfect game in many aspects and is very different from other titles, yet i can also see why you would disagree and i respect that.

[Mr_Blank]

Your entitled to your opinion man don’t let people who think GOTY is the end all be all of a games quality get to you (hell over watch won GOTY against titanfall 2 AND doom). I’m new to the dark souls series, and I’ve only played elden ring on steam, and Seikro and bloodborne on the PS. And while I think bloodbornes bosses are better than most elden ring bosses gameplay wise, since elden ring does have issues with target lock and hit regulation sometimes, I personally love the spectacle of some of the bosses, like radahn, placidusax, and ESPECIALLY the elden beast and malenia. Elden ring is by far the most beautiful of the dark souls games, as from what I can tell other than sekiro, the dark souls trilogy and demon souls are all gritty and dark the entire time. And while that’s fine, im sure it gets old 4 games later. Areas like limgrave, the capital and the eternal cities took my breath away. I still love elden ring with all my heart, but I can respect people who don’t enjoy every single thing about it.

[Mr_Blank]

While I agree boss originality does get old with some bosses, like the dragons and ertree spirits, saying the demigods, bosses like placidusax and Astel, and even invasions or smaller bosses like Gideon aren’t original is ridiculous. The fire giant for me stands the best boss I’ve ever fought in any game, over doom eternal amazing bosses, over BOTWs amazing Ganon fight, and over most other open world bosses. Yes the game suffers from overused bosses, but that doesn’t matter to me when there’s like 80 original bosses out of the 130 you fight as a whole.