[Status Effect PvE Build] Frostbite vs Bleed

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Hello :)

For my next character, I'm going to try a Status effect PvE Build (I don't play PvP).
I can't decide between Frostbite or Bleed for my weapon.

From what I understand:

* Bleed :
- can apply multiple times during a fight
- has a talisman and helmet to boost damage when activated for +30% damage

* Frostbite :
- applies a -20% damage to all resistances debuff
- can't be reapplied during that time
- doesn't have equipment boost linked to its activation

From your experience, which one is the most efficient against :
- weak mobs ?
- bosses ?

Against weak mobs, I think Bleed is better, as it can trigger on each mob and the talisman buff continues after killing one mob.
So I'd still be boosted for the next mob.
Frostbite, once triggered would have very little time left to give the +20% damage before the mob dies...and would not have any benefit against the next mob, as frostbite would have to be reapplied on it.
So against weak mobs, I believe Bleed is much better.

Against bosses, I don't really know.
I think some bosses are immune to bleed, but do you know what proportion?
I don't think most bosses are immune to Frostbite, but is it true?
From my limited knowledge, I'd believe that frostbite would be more effective against the majority of bosses.

Please share your opinion, I'm eager to read them and learn more about these 2 statsu effects.

Thanks for your time, have a nice day. :)

[Havok]

So I actually ran both this playthrough.

I started magic and then went to a STR/INT hybrid and it was pretty viable for a while.

Dual colossal cold greatswords, and pretty much exclusively frost spells. While it was enjoyable for a while, in hindsight It.. lacked something. There are some bosses you can multi proc frost, and at that point it’s a slower bleed type thing.

Frost is really good for pvp. It hits health hard when it procs, and the damage up is noticeable.

I think having freezing mist or stomp as a status applied is good, but I would almost certainly have it as a support damage.

I found that a good build for bosses, atleast somewhat (I did swap off for a faith build as freeze didn’t really work out for me in the endgame) was kite a boss (that doesn’t jump all over the place) in freezing mist or freezing breath, use the ROT/Poison rapier for DOT, and then hit them with bleed, either by pole arm or some other weapon.

So it’s not exclusively using frost, as for bosses I personally don’t think it has the utility to be used on its own, but for pvp it very much has utility.

Overall though, frost was nice, but bleed, even with how nerfed it is, is still better, BUT, the thing I realized is neither can be used exclusively for every scenario.

[[NG]Giuls The Original]

I have tested both the bleed and the frost, in pve, and I prefer the frost. It takes root on many enemies, including those immune to bleed ;) , and can be re-applied quickly by setting fire to the enemy after freezing it. A fire arrow (or magic, or a bomb) is also fine, after which just attack it again until it freezes. plus the damage is good and lowering defenses helps a lot against bosses. i think the bleed is better for the pvp.

[Are]

i ran bleed for my last ng+ game (double reduvia +9 ) and it really busted because you can spam the ash of war for that weapon a lot and can easily build blood loss. so regarding to your question for me personally i prefer bleed over frost because can be said a lot of bosses are really weak against bleed and it literally carried me for the whole playthrough but i think if you combine them it will be really enjoyable and fun.