Best weapon for pure Int?

[MisterRed]

Basically, shortsword even with magic enhancement really isn't cutting it. Pure Faith has cipher pata and Coded Sword, is there an equivalent for magic? Like a glintstone blade or something

[juicy]

Senki původně napsal:

Pure int doesn't have many great options.

If you're willing to spend a little on dex then moonveil or wing of astel are both amazing.

HERESY!

Pure int is good.

Stop relying on crutch weapons like moonveil

[Terminator]

Liquid Juicy původně napsal:

Senki původně napsal:

Pure int doesn't have many great options.

If you're willing to spend a little on dex then moonveil or wing of astel are both amazing.

HERESY!

Pure int is good.

Stop relying on crutch weapons like moonveil

they just do not know they can enchant any normal weapon with magic or frost ;p

[MisterRed]

Terminator původně napsal:

you dont need dexterity for mage build, use radagons icon and azurs staff for maximum cast speed at any dexterity.
What you need is intellect mind and vigor to not die from 1 hit in those fancy light clothes

Should I not be using Lusat's Staff? I was told that one was the best in the game for the damage boost. Building a mage is hard

[Terminator]

MisterRed původně napsal:

Terminator původně napsal:

you dont need dexterity for mage build, use radagons icon and azurs staff for maximum cast speed at any dexterity.
What you need is intellect mind and vigor to not die from 1 hit in those fancy light clothes

Should I not be using Lusat's Staff? I was told that one was the best in the game for the damage boost. Building a mage is hard

you have two hands, take 1 staff in one hand to have bonuses, and cast with another staff that has higher scaling, you do not even need to upgrade azurs staff to have full bonus to speed.
with maximum cast speed your carion slicer will be your main melee weapon.
my faith char is at 110 level
60 vigor
30 mind
10 endurance
50 faith
and it does very well with just casting flame take thee and catch flame at extreme speeds
other stats are from starting class

[Backstabba]

MisterRed původně napsal:

Terminator původně napsal:

you dont need dexterity for mage build, use radagons icon and azurs staff for maximum cast speed at any dexterity.
What you need is intellect mind and vigor to not die from 1 hit in those fancy light clothes

Should I not be using Lusat's Staff? I was told that one was the best in the game for the damage boost. Building a mage is hard

Effectively they both have the same trade off in increase FP cost(50%) but lusat gives the best damage(~11% more at 80 int then the carian regal scepter).

While Azur's gives faster casting speed(slightly more then radagon icon) at a lower FP(20%) penalty.

[Zogtar]

Terminator původně napsal:

Less Than Symbol původně napsal:

Cipher Pata and Coded Sword are also underwhelming. Though it's cool to pretend you have a light saber, or are holy wolverine.

Recc you level/respec your stats enough to play around with the weapons you have. You can always get more sombers/smithing stones. Then respec when you figure out which weapons you prefer.

Duel Scimitars w/ int are fine if you want some smithing stone options.

so faith weapons that scale only from faith and go straight through shields are underwhelming, *nods like a Sellen*
forgot to add cipher pata weights 0, coded sword weights 1.5 - very underwhelming for full faith user with no endurance lol

Going straight through shields, yet doesn't stagger very well. You'll be trading more than anything.

[Me? Mushanga]

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DayLight1943 původně napsal:

lots of folks in this tread including OP seem to have tunnel vision on somber weapons.

That's because they scale better and are just better in general.

16/18/38
Magic Claymore: 685 vs Dark Moon GS: 676
Magic Uchigatana: 592 vs Moonveil: 587
Magic Bandit's CS: 592 vs Wing of Astel: 509

Weird.

[Tyler McRae]

MisterRed původně napsal:

Basically, shortsword even with magic enhancement really isn't cutting it. Pure Faith has cipher pata and Coded Sword, is there an equivalent for magic? Like a glintstone blade or something

If you're going pure int, there are very few options, but my favorites tend to be the Wing of Astel, a simple magic-infused Longsword or other straight sword, or a Clayman's Harpoon. Those are great int weapons.

[MisterRed]

Alright, today I learned I can't post images in forums, so maybe I can format this to not be cancerous, if anyone is willing to read my idea of the build and tell me if it works.

Vig: 35
Mind: 50
Str: 10
Dex: 17
Int: 77
(Others unchanged.)

Head: Karolos Head (+3 Int for 80)
Body: Raya Lucaria Robes
Hand: Errant Sorcerer Manchettes
Leg: Battlemage Legwraps

Talisman:
Erdtree Favor +2
Graven-Mass
Graven-School
Radagon's Icon

Left Hand:
Carian Regal Sceptor
Lusat's Staff
Azur's Staff

Right Hand:
Wing of Astel
Glintstone Kris
Magic Imbued Katar

[Terminator]

Less Than Symbol původně napsal:

Terminator původně napsal:

so faith weapons that scale only from faith and go straight through shields are underwhelming, *nods like a Sellen*
forgot to add cipher pata weights 0, coded sword weights 1.5 - very underwhelming for full faith user with no endurance lol

Going straight through shields, yet doesn't stagger very well. You'll be trading more than anything.

you have catch flame for stagger and other spells, we are talking pure build

[Terminator]

why do you want 80 intellect so badly? 35 vigor is 1200 hp? i make 1200 damage with my heavy infused guts ultra sword with roar on heavy attack.
you can play low hp only if you are master at the game and can dodge anything.

[MisterRed]

Terminator původně napsal:

why do you want 80 intellect so badly? 35 vigor is 1200 hp? i make 1200 damage with my heavy infused guts ultra sword with roar on heavy attack.
you can play low hp only if you are master at the game and can dodge anything.

Isn't 80 where you're meant to be at the end of most builds? My Strength build has 75 Strength, Dex build has 80 Dex, and Faith build has 80 faith. I've been functioning off the assumption that its a necessity to make the best possible class

Edit: Not to mention Renalla's Full Moon unlocks all the way at 70, so the caps feel especially potent for mages

[Terminator]

man max level in this game is 700 and you want 80 out of max 99 stat at 130 level without leveling your vigor? you wont pass the bonk (vigor check). If you are mainly PvE you dont need that much damage since all PvE is easy and you can always go for 200+ level if you wana go for NG+ and 300+ sl for multiplayer, if you PvP - as i said BONK

best possible class is the one with 60 vigor if you are not the guy who can go through the game without gettin hit. When i fight in arena, alot of my duels end in tradin where i have 1-50 hp left and opponent is dead because he didnt have hp talisman or didnt level vigor;P

and here we come to one of the problems of the new souls game, casters do not enter the meta well because they need 1 more attribute than brute force class

[MisterRed]

Terminator původně napsal:

man max level in this game is 700 and you want 80 out of max 99 stat at 130 level without leveling your vigor? you wont pass the bonk (vigor check). If you are mainly PvE you dont need that much damage since all PvE is easy and you can always go for 200+ level if you wana go for NG+ and 300+ sl for multiplayer, if you PvP - as i said BONK

Then I guess I can subtract 7 from int and put it in Vigor, get a nice 42 Vigor, which I assume is good for a mage, since my strength build has 60 Vig and tanks plenty

[Terminator]

MisterRed původně napsal:

Terminator původně napsal:

man max level in this game is 700 and you want 80 out of max 99 stat at 130 level without leveling your vigor? you wont pass the bonk (vigor check). If you are mainly PvE you dont need that much damage since all PvE is easy and you can always go for 200+ level if you wana go for NG+ and 300+ sl for multiplayer, if you PvP - as i said BONK

Then I guess I can subtract 7 from int and put it in Vigor, get a nice 42 Vigor, which I assume is good for a mage, since my strength build has 60 Vig and tanks plenty

dont forget your stre build has plate armor ;P
id suggest you backup your save now with 130 level mage, then level it to 170 and see which performs better. I was tellin ppl on those forums 125 is meta for brutes only with no mind, noone believed me. Casters meta is 170
btw if you do not pvp it doesnt matter how much vigor you got over 40, just dont die the first second you are in the bossroom as cooperator