Astel, Natural born of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Patchworth+]

is there an item I am supposed to have for this? I have 20 vigor and the boss' meteor strike attack is one-shotting me through Radahn armor. It doesn't matter how I dodge or if I use a shield, one meteor homes right for me and there is nothing I am able to do for it.
A boss being fully dependent on "did it do the attack or not" is not fun and frankly I am sick of this.

[Koala 4peace]

Well, there are people who beat the game at level 1, so technically is not mandatory to put more points in vigor. You just need complete knowledge of every aspect of the game and the will power to spend time mastering i-frames, parries and such...

[Fineous🔥]

Meh....this is his first Elden Ring "experience". He probably played his way and without guides just being intuitive (as it should be). Of course coming here to make the profanity filter dance was not the right move but he was a ok dude after all.

Also respect for getting there without giving up,

[broaderplum]

have u tried dodging?

[CourtesyFlush09]

20 VIGOR ARE YOU LOCO?!!!!!!

[opus132]

Originally posted by 𝕱𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖔𝖚𝖘🔥:

Originally posted by Patchworth+:

I have 20 vigor

This is all I needed to read. No, just no...at this point in the game you should be around 40, Astel and what comes after are high level targets.

Go and respec and get more vigor. Yes this solves nearly all the problem.

His grab attack can still one shot you with 40 vigor, but the rest ought to be a whole lot easier.

[Aertes]

-is there an item I am supposed to have for this?
Ranged attacks work quite well against Astel, but you can melee him too, specially if you get underneath him, but don't stay there too long or stay attentive to his "seismeic waves"

-I have 20 vigor and the boss' meteor strike attack is one-shotting me through Radahn armor. It doesn't matter how I dodge or if I use a shield, one meteor homes right for me and there is nothing I am able to do for it.
When he prepares his meteor rain, just run around him, in a straight line perpendicular to the meteors. Its what i do and I'm enver touched.

[Juliane_L]

20 Vigor is ABYSIMALLY low.
You want at least 40 for most of late game, and up to 50-60 to deal with endgame bosses. No wonder you get one shot. I'm impressed that you got this far with only 20 Vigor, to be perfectly honest.

[Fineous🔥]

Originally posted by opus132:

Originally posted by 𝕱𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖔𝖚𝖘🔥:

This is all I needed to read. No, just no...at this point in the game you should be around 40, Astel and what comes after are high level targets.

Go and respec and get more vigor. Yes this solves nearly all the problem.

His grab attack can still one shot you with 40 vigor, but the rest ought to be a whole lot easier.

Ha....and with 85! (NG7 and beyond). And we are talking about the Ranni quest Astel, the Yelough Anix one if he manages to grab you deletes your character and uninstalls Elden RIng.

But as i said before, OP did a decent job getting there by just dodging and pumping enough damage to end the fights fast but after Morgot (and the guy after the first Astel) you are rogered if you walk around with 20 vigor.

[Patchworth+]

Originally posted by MundM:

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!! Are you trolling? How did you even get there without raging in threads like this with 20 vigor?
Almost everything is supposed to one shot you at this point.
Do you think enemies aren't entitled to dealing more damage in later areas?

Did you think you're the best player and able to dodge everything?
Even a pure mage should have 40 vigor at this point.

It's really simple, and the game tells you you need more health and/ or armor, by having you take too much damage... the game throws level ups at you like no tomorrow, invest in vigor, or spend more time dying while learning to play perfect.



20 vigor, what a joke.

By my count I have cleared most of the bosses with 10-20 vigor. I have to at least be around the 50% mark of dead bosses (though probably higher)

I never knew it was low because I always assumed bosses have one-hit-kill guaranteed attacks as a soft timer on the fight. So instead of full armor+vigor I've been investing into damage and mobility.

But now? Now I know I've been playing on a handicap and STILL winning. So thanks, by calling me trash for not having 40 Vigor you've actually given me an ego boost. I am a badass that can kill the worst things this world has to offer without taking as many hits as you.

[Vinnolo]

40 vigor is the least you should have, bosses like malenia are just going to be very hard to do with less than that

[Grantorino]

Mate always go for high health because the late game bosses do massive damage. Man's can't even do Rykard with that health 🤣

[DisgruntledVeteran]

40 vig min

[Fineous🔥]

Originally posted by Patchworth+:

But now? Now I know I've been playing on a handicap and STILL winning. So thanks, by calling me trash for not having 40 Vigor you've actually given me an ego boost. I am a badass that can kill the worst things this world has to offer without taking as many hits as you.

Ok....why you had to ruin everything? and i was the only one typing you just played your way leveling up whatever you wanted, now i even have my doubts about this whole thread being a not that humble brag expecting "hostile reactions".

But im case i was right about you.....the first part of the game ends after the capital pretty much. You certainly died a lot but more or else everything was reasonable to give you chances to survive more than one hit, even being the glass cannon you claim to be.
Now after the capital and specially if you are using scorpions/soreseals everything hits like trucks.
There are 3 gingers in your way and every single one of them can oneshot you with their most basic and quicker attack....TLDR just level vigor a bit more to make your experience more enjoyable. 35 or 40, pick one.

[Patchworth+]

I understood maybe 30% of that. I didn't start this as a humble brag, I started it asking if there was something I was missing for the boss. Besides, why would you get mad about someone doing better with less? It really sounds like I'm doing better on 20 then any of the angry people are on 40.

[TK]

Originally posted by Patchworth+:

It really sounds like I'm doing better on 20 then any of the angry people are on 40.

Originally posted by TK:

->decided to not invest in vigor
->got one-shot by boss
->cry about boss being bad design