Garden of eyes mod is 5 bucks a month?

[EGGZxOVERxExZ]

Is that even legal? They're kinda reselling assets that dont belong to them fully. They altered content + created but they still need to use fromsofts assets to create them?

[P.]

Paywalled mod with an executable file. If they dare to sell someone's assets, they might be infecting people's pc with malware.

[Something]

P. の投稿を引用：

Paywalled mod with an executable file. If they dare to sell someone's assets, they might be infecting people's pc with malware.

Or bitcoin farming peoples GPU's without their knowledge.

[cridus]

I know this got kinda necroed but I wanted to add that the author of this mod has (or had, things might have changed in the meantime) one or more tools that allow to do some specific modding things that the opensource modding community hasn't figured out yet. they refuse to share them, which would improve the modding potential for everyone.

[Bill Waggoner]

EGGZOVERxExZ の投稿を引用：

Is that even legal? They're kinda reselling assets that dont belong to them fully. They altered content + created but they still need to use fromsofts assets to create them?

They aren't charging for the mod. They are charging for access to their patreon page which happens to include the mod, among other things, which is perfectly legal.

No one forces you to play the mod. If you are upset about the paywall, make your own mod, make it free and enjoy it with others.

[40+13x-3=17x-363]

Bill Waggoner™ の投稿を引用：

EGGZOVERxExZ の投稿を引用：

Is that even legal? They're kinda reselling assets that dont belong to them fully. They altered content + created but they still need to use fromsofts assets to create them?

They aren't charging for the mod. They are charging for access to their patreon page which happens to include the mod, among other things, which is perfectly legal.

No one forces you to play the mod. If you are upset about the paywall, make your own mod, make it free and enjoy it with others.

Completely wrong, at least read the EULA that pops out the first time you run the game and you'll know any modding at all is not allowed.

Garden of Eyes reselling assets from other games and free work from other modders is just a ♥♥♥♥ move on their part and only an addition that has nothing to do with it, because the point is modding this game in any way is not allowed to begin with.

[vamirez]

Lolimancer の投稿を引用：

Bill Waggoner™ の投稿を引用：

They aren't charging for the mod. They are charging for access to their patreon page which happens to include the mod, among other things, which is perfectly legal.

No one forces you to play the mod. If you are upset about the paywall, make your own mod, make it free and enjoy it with others.

Completely wrong, at least read the EULA that pops out the first time you run the game and you'll know any modding at all is not allowed.

Garden of Eyes reselling assets from other games and free work from other modders is just a ♥♥♥♥ move on their part and only an addition that has nothing to do with it, because the point is modding this game in any way is not allowed to begin with.

I'm not a stickler regarding modding, and I can see that a patreon to support a modder is okay. However, a given mod should only be behind a paywall as long as it is unfinished (which is what many Skyrim modders for example are doing - when it's released, it's free), and just reusing assets/code from others and asking users to pay is indeed absolutely ****ty behavior. No, I have not checked this - this is just my opinion on the matter in general.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Lolimancer の投稿を引用：

Bill Waggoner™ の投稿を引用：

They aren't charging for the mod. They are charging for access to their patreon page which happens to include the mod, among other things, which is perfectly legal.

No one forces you to play the mod. If you are upset about the paywall, make your own mod, make it free and enjoy it with others.

Completely wrong, at least read the EULA that pops out the first time you run the game and you'll know any modding at all is not allowed.

Garden of Eyes reselling assets from other games and free work from other modders is just a ♥♥♥♥ move on their part and only an addition that has nothing to do with it, because the point is modding this game in any way is not allowed to begin with.

Wrong.

GOE is isnt reselling ER or selling assets at all.

P. の投稿を引用：

Paywalled mod with an executable file. If they dare to sell someone's assets, they might be infecting people's pc with malware.

You do think free mods with an executable file would etxactly do that eh?

I guess you dont know what mod loader 2 uses? :o

Why your support is important?
By becoming a Garden of Eyes patron, you will support the development team behind the creation of the mods, and gain early access to the mods we create and become part of the development process, which will be released for free when completed! I am deeply humbled and grateful for your support and generosity, and your support would greatly help me to keep creating more content

we create and become part of the development process, which will be released for free when completed

[40+13x-3=17x-363]

GamingWithSilvertail の投稿を引用：

Lolimancer の投稿を引用：

Completely wrong, at least read the EULA that pops out the first time you run the game and you'll know any modding at all is not allowed.

Garden of Eyes reselling assets from other games and free work from other modders is just a ♥♥♥♥ move on their part and only an addition that has nothing to do with it, because the point is modding this game in any way is not allowed to begin with.

Wrong.

GOE is isnt reselling ER or selling assets at all.

P. の投稿を引用：

Paywalled mod with an executable file. If they dare to sell someone's assets, they might be infecting people's pc with malware.

You do think free mods with an executable file would etxactly do that eh?

I guess you dont know what mod loader 2 uses? :o

Why your support is important?
By becoming a Garden of Eyes patron, you will support the development team behind the creation of the mods, and gain early access to the mods we create and become part of the development process, which will be released for free when completed! I am deeply humbled and grateful for your support and generosity, and your support would greatly help me to keep creating more content

we create and become part of the development process, which will be released for free when completed

Except not only they are reselling assets from other games like God of War but they even bundled the Seamless Co-op mod and part of the Reforged mod code as if it was part of their work, never credit them for their work and paywall it until their mod creators noticed it.

And let's not talk about the "will be released for free when completed" BS because they made mods that are already complete and they never released them for free like they claim to do.
Flying Hippogriff Mount? Sauron/Balrog boss fights? "Let Me Solo Her" Spirit Summon? That last one is even longer than a year old and it was never updated with any changes and much less released for free, because duh, that's all the mod does and it's already completed.

[P.]

GamingWithSilvertail の投稿を引用：

You do think free mods with an executable file would etxactly do that eh?

I guess you dont know what mod loader 2 uses? :o

Mod Engine is an open source project, Garden of Eyes requires user to run an executable file that has nothing to do with Mod Engine and don't share any source code.

[Sayo]

Yeah but will bandai care enough to shut it down?

[cridus]

Lolimancer の投稿を引用：

Except not only they are reselling assets from other games like God of War but they even bundled the Seamless Co-op mod and part of the Reforged mod code as if it was part of their work, never credit them for their work and paywall it until their mod creators noticed it.

this is true. people who didn't know that nexusmods exists thought they had to pay for the seamless co-op mod, by participating in this guy's patreon. it was shady as f.

[Nihrahk]

cridus の投稿を引用：

I know this got kinda necroed but I wanted to add that the author of this mod has (or had, things might have changed in the meantime) one or more tools that allow to do some specific modding things that the opensource modding community hasn't figured out yet. they refuse to share them, which would improve the modding potential for everyone.

Only goes to show that they're selfish pieces of ♥♥♥♥. They don't care about the modding community, all they care about is the money they can get from people that are dumb enough to pay for mods. People love to ♥♥♥♥ on EA or Blizzard for being greedy, but these Garden of Eyes modders are no better.

I'd argue that they're even worse, because at least in the case of gaming companies like EA and Blizzard I mentioned were just a bunch of people working hard making games. They only got corrupt and greedy when they grew big. Garden of Eyes were corrupt and greedy from the start.

[gungadin22000]

Only thing worse than modders demanding money for their work is game devs demanding money for the work of modders.

I'm looking at you, Bethesda.

[R3dAlert93]

I heard GOE will release on nexus soon.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

P. の投稿を引用：

GamingWithSilvertail の投稿を引用：

You do think free mods with an executable file would etxactly do that eh?

I guess you dont know what mod loader 2 uses? :o

Mod Engine is an open source project, Garden of Eyes requires user to run an executable file that has nothing to do with Mod Engine and don't share any source code.

Modders have all rights to not open source theyr projects

And if you have no clue about programming you may as well think of it that way too (This being the average joe)

Not everything open source is ya know, clean?

But what do you know?

I think you're to paranoid. Just wait till it releases on Nexusmods.

Nihrahk の投稿を引用：

cridus の投稿を引用：

I know this got kinda necroed but I wanted to add that the author of this mod has (or had, things might have changed in the meantime) one or more tools that allow to do some specific modding things that the opensource modding community hasn't figured out yet. they refuse to share them, which would improve the modding potential for everyone.

Only goes to show that they're selfish pieces of ♥♥♥♥. They don't care about the modding community, all they care about is the money they can get from people that are dumb enough to pay for mods.

Modders dont generally open source theyr own stuff to begin with to prevent theft.

I dont think thats selfish. Why shouldnt they be allowed to do this?

You open source your mods, you get clones, and ripoffs. Thats not nice to any artist too.

Lolimancer の投稿を引用：

GamingWithSilvertail の投稿を引用：

Wrong.

GOE is isnt reselling ER or selling assets at all.


You do think free mods with an executable file would etxactly do that eh?

I guess you dont know what mod loader 2 uses? :o

Except not only they are reselling assets from other games like God of War

Source? If you can provide that, then please do, but I think you're full talk here.