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Diabolical Jan 6, 2023 @ 5:55am
How did anyone fix the frame drops and stuttering?
Running an RTX 2070 Super, Ryzen 5 3600x with 16 GB of DDR4 3600 Mhz RAM and I'm seeing people with my exact specs get a locked 60 fps. Mine dips as low as 45-50 at times and has really bad loading stutter at times.

Turning EAC off doesn't help and my drivers are up to date and all that other stuff people tend to recommend.
Last edited by Diabolical; Jan 6, 2023 @ 5:57am
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gingerbreadman Jan 6, 2023 @ 6:02am 
honestly no clue, I used to be fine a couple months ago, now it freezes like crazy(only in certain areas though).

had it the worst when fighting that RoB invader, everytime they did their special attack my game would freeze and I would die
nfinite.recursion Jan 6, 2023 @ 6:12am 
1. nVidia Control Panel -> Global Tab -> Shader Cache -> "Unlimited"

2. nVidia Control Panel -> Program Tab -> Elden Ring -> Power Management Mode -> "Prefer Maximum Performance"

3. nVidia Control Panel -> Program Tab -> Elden Ring -> Low Latency Mode -> "Ultra"

4. nVidia Control Panel -> Program Tab -> Elden Ring -> Vertical Sync -> "Fast"

All other settings are at default, so you may want to click the "Restore" button before changing these settings in nVCP.

Download CPU-Z and GPU-Z. Use CPU-Z to verify that your RAM is actually running at 3600MT/s and configured for dual channel. If not, activate DOCP(XMP) in BIOS.

Use GPU-Z to ensure your GPU is operating in PCIe x16. If not, reseat the card. Sag can result in a partial electrical connection, dropping it to x8 or lower.

In Windows Device Manager, try disabling "Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator".

If you have Gamepass installed, you may have to uninstall all games.
Rarshaiz Jan 6, 2023 @ 6:26am 
I had no problems until after this mornings update from steam. Now its so jittery its almost unplayable. Really its unplayable because I can not fight the things i need too. So just farming levels now.
Diabolical Jan 6, 2023 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:
1. nVidia Control Panel -> Global Tab -> Shader Cache -> "Unlimited"

2. nVidia Control Panel -> Program Tab -> Elden Ring -> Power Management Mode -> "Prefer Maximum Performance"

3. nVidia Control Panel -> Program Tab -> Elden Ring -> Low Latency Mode -> "Ultra"

4. nVidia Control Panel -> Program Tab -> Elden Ring -> Vertical Sync -> "Fast"

All other settings are at default, so you may want to click the "Restore" button before changing these settings in nVCP.

Download CPU-Z and GPU-Z. Use CPU-Z to verify that your RAM is actually running at 3600MT/s and configured for dual channel. If not, activate DOCP(XMP) in BIOS.

Use GPU-Z to ensure your GPU is operating in PCIe x16. If not, reseat the card. Sag can result in a partial electrical connection, dropping it to x8 or lower.

In Windows Device Manager, try disabling "Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator".

If you have Gamepass installed, you may have to uninstall all games.
Did all that and the only change I had to make was setting the XMP profile from "auto" in my BIOS. Not sure if the stuttering has been fixed since I have no way of reliably triggering it but the framerate still varies from 45-60 depending on the area regardless of graphics settings. No different from playing it on consoles at this point.
N0REGARD4LIFE Jan 6, 2023 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:
1. nVidia Control Panel -> Global Tab -> Shader Cache -> "Unlimited"

2. nVidia Control Panel -> Program Tab -> Elden Ring -> Power Management Mode -> "Prefer Maximum Performance"

3. nVidia Control Panel -> Program Tab -> Elden Ring -> Low Latency Mode -> "Ultra"

4. nVidia Control Panel -> Program Tab -> Elden Ring -> Vertical Sync -> "Fast"

All other settings are at default, so you may want to click the "Restore" button before changing these settings in nVCP.

Download CPU-Z and GPU-Z. Use CPU-Z to verify that your RAM is actually running at 3600MT/s and configured for dual channel. If not, activate DOCP(XMP) in BIOS.

Use GPU-Z to ensure your GPU is operating in PCIe x16. If not, reseat the card. Sag can result in a partial electrical connection, dropping it to x8 or lower.

In Windows Device Manager, try disabling "Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator".

If you have Gamepass installed, you may have to uninstall all games.
I've tried 1 and 2. haven't tried 3, 4 there's no difference. I play on a 13700K/4090 with 32gb of DDR5 6400mhz and have the game on a 3500mbs NVME drive and barely get any stuttering or small freezes. I'm gonna try my new WD SN850X which is a 7000mbs NVME drive and hope that minimizes it even further. I'm wondering if Hardware Accelerate GPU scheduling isn't causing some issues as well since it does for other games even using Windows 11.
[-iD-] Jan 6, 2023 @ 7:25am 
didn't have to fix it thankfully, it just worked for me. HAGS on or off didn't make a difference, but HAGS off fixed a display bug in task manager for GPU usage. im a firm believer of leaving HAGS off, who knows what it actually does but seemingly nothing positive tbh.
specs are on profile, mine is sort of similar to yours but i have ddr4 ram.
Originally posted by Diabolical:
Did all that and the only change I had to make was setting the XMP profile from "auto" in my BIOS. Not sure if the stuttering has been fixed since I have no way of reliably triggering it but the framerate still varies from 45-60 depending on the area regardless of graphics settings. No different from playing it on consoles at this point.

Which areas does it vary the most? Are they grassy areas? Setting Grass Quality to "Medium" can help a lot. When set to "High" or "Max", the game uses physics-enabled grass. Since the game only seems to use one main game thread, the physics grass can overload that one thread.

Another thing to look at is using DDU to completely wipe out all shader caches and old driver entries. Be sure to run it "properly" in Safe Mode to let it do what it needs to do.

Some folks have also mentioned that clearing the temp folders also helps for some reason.

1. Win + R

2. %temp%

3. Select all and delete. You may get some popups asking for permission to delete. There may also be some files that can't be deleted because they are currently in use. This is normal.

Originally posted by N0REGARD4LIFE:
I've tried 1 and 2. haven't tried 3, 4 there's no difference. I play on a 13700K/4090 with 32gb of DDR5 6400mhz and have the game on a 3500mbs NVME drive and barely get any stuttering or small freezes. I'm gonna try my new WD SN850X which is a 7000mbs NVME drive and hope that minimizes it even further. I'm wondering if Hardware Accelerate GPU scheduling isn't causing some issues as well since it does for other games even using Windows 11.

Not sure if Hardware Accelerated Scheduling helps or hurts performance in ER. In my own limited testing, there was no appreciable difference on my nVidia RTX 2060 or AMD W6600 Pro.

I really think the game is just so incredibly poorly optimized that even ultra high end systems will struggle in certain areas. Certain spells and effects have a big impact on performance and it's as if the CPU is doing all of the particle calculations on its own and tracking individual particles rather than using particle groups.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2900711679

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2900711700

That Walking Mausoleum in the Consecrated Snowfield destroys performance on every system when its "fireworks" begin exploding. When the "fireworks" initially shoot out, the framerate initially drops to 59fps then completely tanks afterwards.
Diabolical Jan 6, 2023 @ 7:56am 
Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:
Originally posted by Diabolical:
Did all that and the only change I had to make was setting the XMP profile from "auto" in my BIOS. Not sure if the stuttering has been fixed since I have no way of reliably triggering it but the framerate still varies from 45-60 depending on the area regardless of graphics settings. No different from playing it on consoles at this point.

Which areas does it vary the most? Are they grassy areas? Setting Grass Quality to "Medium" can help a lot. When set to "High" or "Max", the game uses physics-enabled grass. Since the game only seems to use one main game thread, the physics grass can overload that one thread.

Another thing to look at is using DDU to completely wipe out all shader caches and old driver entries. Be sure to run it "properly" in Safe Mode to let it do what it needs to do.

Some folks have also mentioned that clearing the temp folders also helps for some reason.

1. Win + R

2. %temp%

3. Select all and delete. You may get some popups asking for permission to delete. There may also be some files that can't be deleted because they are currently in use. This is normal.

Originally posted by N0REGARD4LIFE:
I've tried 1 and 2. haven't tried 3, 4 there's no difference. I play on a 13700K/4090 with 32gb of DDR5 6400mhz and have the game on a 3500mbs NVME drive and barely get any stuttering or small freezes. I'm gonna try my new WD SN850X which is a 7000mbs NVME drive and hope that minimizes it even further. I'm wondering if Hardware Accelerate GPU scheduling isn't causing some issues as well since it does for other games even using Windows 11.

Not sure if Hardware Accelerated Scheduling helps or hurts performance in ER. In my own limited testing, there was no appreciable difference on my nVidia RTX 2060 or AMD W6600 Pro.

I really think the game is just so incredibly poorly optimized that even ultra high end systems will struggle in certain areas. Certain spells and effects have a big impact on performance and it's as if the CPU is doing all of the particle calculations on its own and tracking individual particles rather than using particle groups.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2900711679

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2900711700

That Walking Mausoleum in the Consecrated Snowfield destroys performance on every system when its "fireworks" begin exploding. When the "fireworks" initially shoot out, the framerate initially drops to 59fps then completely tanks afterwards.
It's mostly in Leurnia, Limgrave runs especially worse whenever it's raining. Other areas are usually 54-60 fps and it only drops to the 40s in Leurnia and when it's raining so it's probably something to do with reflections. It's just weird because I've seen videos of people using my exact specs and getting 60 fps locked and idk what's different.
Last edited by Diabolical; Jan 6, 2023 @ 7:57am
It could be any number of things like background tasks and additional overlays (Steam, Discord, Geforce Experience). These things usually get glossed over for performance improvements because sometimes they just aren't used. I personally only have the Steam Overlay active. I never install Geforce Experience since it's just useless bloatware.
nwad Jan 6, 2023 @ 8:32am 
Low latency mode will lower your frame rate if you don't have a powerful rig. It reduces how many frames are buffered on the CPU in advance of being sent to the GPU for display. On lower-end systems, that will reduce performance. The upside is that on faster systems, controls will feel a little more responsive.

Same goes for vsync. If you can handle a little screen tearing, disable it for slightly higher frame rates and considerably more responsive controls.

The more buffering that is going on, the longer it takes for frames to get displayed. That makes it feel like the controls are lagging. Less buffering leads to faster response time.
Last edited by nwad; Jan 6, 2023 @ 8:36am
Lahoo Eckbert Jan 6, 2023 @ 9:33am 
I had very minimal stutter to begin with. But I noticed over time that my fps got lower, I'm 100% sure game ran better in the earlier months. But I'm not sure if installing newer Nvidia drivers messed it up or one of the patches of the game did, but It certainly feels like I'm getting lower FPS on most parts of Liurnia and some parts of limgrave. Legacy dungeon areas, Caelid, Altus plateu and the rest of the game runs pretty well but Liurnia especially tanks the fps like I haven't noticed in earlier stages of the games release.
Playing on 11600k, 2060(slight OC) 32gb ddr4(300mhz) and samsung 970 evo plus.

Also no amount of nvidia settings tweaking seems to have made any difference.
One question though, should the physx processor set to auto or gpu and would that make a difference?
nfinite.recursion Jan 6, 2023 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Lahoo Eckbert:
Also no amount of nvidia settings tweaking seems to have made any difference.
One question though, should the physx processor set to auto or gpu and would that make a difference?

Plenty of placebo fixes suggest manually setting the PhysX and preferred CUDA GPU. It makes no difference as ER utilizes neither.
Diabolical Jan 6, 2023 @ 9:41am 
Pretty sure something stopped the stuttering because I've gone about an hour of playing without it happening to the same degree it was before. Instead of loading stutter it's a brief frame drop to around 40 fps for a second before going back up. That's good enough for me.
877-CASH-NOW Jan 6, 2023 @ 12:45pm 
I tried some fixes listed on Reddit and Easy handed me a 180-day ban for having the gall to try and get the stuttering under control. This game has been out for almost a year, this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ridiculous.
877-CASH-NOW Jan 6, 2023 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by csand:
Originally posted by E-MackDaddy:
I tried some fixes listed on Reddit and Easy handed me a 180-day ban for having the gall to try and get the stuttering under control. This game has been out for almost a year, this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ridiculous.
Lots of people don't have stuttering, this isn't some widespread critical issue. Is From supposed to send a tech to personally diagnose your computer?

Its not a critical issue, its a performance and optimization issue, which, in the post-launch period we're in, is when it would normally be addressed. Also, just Google the stuttering and frame drop issue and you get plenty of threads. Buddy we're also in a thread about people having those issues. Knock off the hyperbole; did you show up just to be obnoxious?
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