Cross region match making

[𝑀𝓊𝑔𝑒𝓃]

Why the heck am i getting matched with chinese players more when i have cross region turned off , it's like playing on mc donalds wifi

[skel]

i am a digital racist

fix your botswanian internet, wang long dong

[Karmgahl]

Yeah the region matching in these games are not good...

But this has NOTHING to do with thinking some countries simply has "very poor internet". No... this problem is simply a matter of distance to the people you're playing with.

Because when you connect to someone that with a high ping (ping meaning the time in milliseconds it takes for your games network packets to reach that player). Then no amount of lag/prediction buffer the game uses will EVER be enough to mask this in any meaningfull way.

And thats when weird stuff starts to happen. And the more real-time oriented the game is. The harder it is to mask it via a prediction buffer.

If you were to connect to your neighbour via internet (as opposed to a LAN connection) then you might get a ping of somewhere between say 1 ms to 20 ms. When I as an EU player connect to a player from US or China.. the ping can be anywhere between 100ms to way over 300ms. Even the worlds best netcode will never be able to mask that in a real-time action game environment.

Most games network/prediction buffer can handle pings of up to 100ms. But anything above that and you will usually start to see problems. Hence why even MMOs like World of warcraft splits the players up into several regions.

And they do this, even though MMOs like WoW will generally have an easier time to mask high ping because of how these games mechanics aren't as real-time dependent as say a souls game and thus are easier to mask.

So this is why most developers split the population into 3 regions. Which are usually "US, EU, Asian". Simply to make sure that all players connecting has a ping below 100ms. Ideally below 50ms even. As this will improve the the odds that everyone gets a good experience by A LOT. Especially in an environment that utilises P2P connections (which is what all Souls games use) instead of server/client.

I'd rather wait 20+ minutes to get to play against someone with a ping below 100ms than to be able to play 10 matches in 5 minutes against people with 300+ ping. Because those matches are simply NOT fun in any meaningful way...

I too see mostly US, Chinese, Taiwan, etc players connecting to me than EU players. Which is of course due those countries have a lot more players. But this is also WHY matchmaking needs to have more regions..

Why FS have opted into using only 2 regions ("Japan" and "the rest of the world") is beyond me, because... it's stupid. Even more so when you take into account how notoriusly BAD the network code for the souls games really are.

TLDR:
Players NEED to be separated into regions because of distance between them in real-life. Not because you think some countries only have "crappy internet connections".

[Air]

I think people are misguided this isnt about where they're from or race, OP and I'm sure most people playing elden ring understand its not their poor internet its the fact that matchmaking will throw you with any old person despite the distance and quality. which is uncalled for in a modern game.

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Originally posted by Air:

I think people are misguided this isnt about where they're from or race, OP and I'm sure most people playing elden ring understand its not their poor internet its the fact that matchmaking will throw you with any old person despite the distance and quality. which is uncalled for in a modern game.

THIS , the game is literally matching me with people halfway across the friggin world

[A Gamer Gaming]

Originally posted by Anewbous:

Originally posted by Obamarama:

Everyone isn't lagging. Chinese players are lagging. Can you read or do you just cry 'bigot' at everything? I experience the same when I look at recent players after I meet a laggard. Guess I'm a bigot because seemingly the majority of Chinese Elden Ring players have ♥♥♥♥ internet.

Edit: I can count the number of non-laggy Chinese players I have met on one hand. 3.

And yet I've lost count with how many I've played with and RARELY lag at all. Bigot.

That's cool tell me when you have a point. If bigot means I don't want to play with Beijing WiFi then I guess I am. If I could flip a switch on Steam to never match with a Chinese player I would've done it years ago and never looked back.

We don't even need to mention the cheating lol

[Terminator]

Originally posted by chima:

lol really affirms my position that all these calls for region lock are thinly-veiled sinophobia. it's literally always china and never any other country. the cross-region setting just means you can connect to japanese players

because China numba one my friend