The hardest boss in the game is not Malenia.

[Uncanny Moskvich]

It's Maliketh. This boss is pure cancer. He spends 80% of his phase airborne and unable to be struck with melee and most magic. Most windows to attack him are negated by him AoE nuking his vicinity or screeching at you and sending you flying across the arena.

Malenia's difficulty tones down by a lot when you learn how to dodge waterfowl dance.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Kha님이 먼저 게시:

Epic, now show yourself dodging waterfowl consistently.

Waterfowl literally requires you to abuse Malenia's tracking in order to dodge it, not to mention that in the video the guy is specifically fishing out Waterfowl, me? i used a heavy, slow ass spear, she uses waterfowl in the middle of my attack? there go my chances of dodging it.

No one is saying it's IMPOSSIBLE to dodge it, that's not the point, the point is that it's extremely hard to dodge it, and to dodge it in the first place you need to do very, VERY specific movements. Tell me, how exactly are you supposed to learn how to dodge a move that requires you to abuse tracking on your own? It's extremely unrealistic to assume that people have the time for that ♥♥♥♥.

But this is all besides the point, you responded to me with all this...when i wasn't saying anything about dodging waterfowl in response to you, i was talking about how the entire fight revolves around waterfowl for the most part, how she's a gimmick boss relying on ONE MOVE, you completely failed to address this. She absolutely is badly designed if her fight has to hinge on one move. Like, what do you think causes the majority of deaths to Malenia? is it 99% of her kit, or is it the one move you see everyone dying to? is it the one move that is ridiculously hard to dodge? is it the ONE MOVE that requires you to point to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ TUTORIALS to learn how to dodge?

Solid points. Malenia's fight being RNG-dependent is a big reason why it royally sucks ass. I've had fights where she did it 3 times in a row, or not at all.

What also sucks is that, without Waterfowl, I actually think Malenia would be good fight. Hell, even just making it a 1-part attack instead of 3 would be an improvement. I also think the attack looks "off" and out of place. She flails around like a headless chicken nearly across the entire arena and you're just like "wtf." I am convinced she is what a Tomoe fight from Sekiro would have looked like. All of her attacks look like they were meant to be deflected.

[FIRE]

CourtesyFlush90님이 먼저 게시:

It still needs more work in terms of balancing and updates to get it at the level of its predecessors, or actually live up to its potential.

It's already at the level of it's predecessors. All souls games dropped the ball hard in many areas and DS1 has the exact same issue of dropping heavily in quality in the second half. They are all unfinished, extremely unbalanced and far from being as good as the hype is trying to make them.

The only one that I'd say is actually better in the quality aspect is Bloodborne and Sekiro if you want to consider that one a soulslike(I don't).

It would definitely be nice to see it live to it's potential tho.

[UnholyDentist]

1100011님이 먼저 게시:

(edit: I know about the Blasphemous Blade, decided to try solo without cheese)

Blasphemous Blade is the embodiment of cheese.

[CazadorDeLobo]

I think it's less that these bosses are hard, and more that they are un-fun to fight, and therefore figuring them out takes more time because it's unsatisfying. IMO

[CourtesyFlush09]

UnholyDentist님이 먼저 게시:

1100011님이 먼저 게시:

(edit: I know about the Blasphemous Blade, decided to try solo without cheese)

Blasphemous Blade is the embodiment of cheese.

It's just way too good. And with Rykard's Great Rune activated, you'll have a tough time dying lol.

[OAN]

I don't know, I know I died a few times with Maliketh, maybe a dozen. I know that I died several dozen times with Malenia. Eventually I used Mimic Tear to beat her, which I didn't use any tears with Maliketh.

[FIRE]

csand님이 먼저 게시:

Beast cleric is harder than Maliketh

Any boss that screams in bloodborne is harder than ER bosses. The sound waves turn your brain to mush

[Kung Fu RUSSEL]

UnholyDentist님이 먼저 게시:

1100011님이 먼저 게시:

(edit: I know about the Blasphemous Blade, decided to try solo without cheese)

Blasphemous Blade is the embodiment of cheese.

Comet Azur + Hidden Tear

[GoreTiger]

I keep seeing high praise for BB but I personally never used it, Always went with the ruins greatsword instead.

i wish there was the option to remove those arms from the BB and make the sword look like Rykard's portrait. That sword looks pretty sweet.

[1100011]

Ymir님이 먼저 게시:

Any boss that screams in bloodborne is harder than ER bosses. The sound waves turn your brain to mush

Had to turn the sound off for Laurence, but kept the music on. Effect: you're now playing in a metal music video. Can recommend.