Please make Aeonian Butterfly, and rot consumables, not shareable

[BeefJerkyHunter]

I wasn't aware of the item duplicating glitch/exploit until three of weeks back. Then last week I learned that the scarlet rot consumables should be almost finite (Aeonian butterly being the limiter) during a single playthrough. Now this past week I've dealt with plenty of invaders spamming rot pots and arrows/bolts killing my hosts and my character. I've dealt with more prior but I never bothered connecting the dots until recently.

Scarlet rot in early level areas is already troublesome but generally the invader had to use a build that was susceptible to being overwhelmed if someone is right next to them. Or it's a late game weapon that many just aren't able to get without leveling up beyond what is typical for Stormveil Castle. The issue with consumable rot items is that the invader can use an optimized PvP build and just spam the rot items with impunity.

For those that are unaware, it is possible to farm Aeonian Butterflies. However, the drop rate is pretty poor for the task. The only reason why an invader can spam these items without a care is that the item was duplicated (they also tend to spam "string" related items too since string is hysterically hard to get). They don't need to care about how long it will take to replenish multiple rot consumables if they have 999 of an item.

So, uh, while keeping the items relevant for those who want them, and limiting their usage for areas they should not be prevalent in, it would be nice if Aeonian butterflies, and rot consumables, were not "drop-able". Make it to where they cannot be shared. Though I doubt anybody relevant is going to see my plea, it's something nice for me to hope for.

[Tao314zdin]

That would not help since there are mods to get any or at least most (did not use, not sure) items for a long time.

Also invaders can use backups to spam anything they stored during the run (same goes for OL-phantoms that do not need to progress btw).

Normally I would say it is an issue, but with OL phantoms not being scaled properly and invasions (unless tongue is used) being 1v2 at best - nah any host that got spanked by invader with that conditions deserves it for being that bad.

[✪Asielra✪]

Just spent a night ganking/dueling with my friend, murked like 70+ ppl, only one did what you described. You sure you are not hyper-focused on this?

[Lumina]

Very much agree with you, OP. I encounter this problem as well and the rot pot enjoyers don't care if they invade a host with overleveled phantoms or just a newbie with a summoned random low level phantom.
Sadly your idea won't solve the issue, since they just can spawn in the items with CE or use a mod to buy them in offline mode. But maybe it would help a little bit, idk.

[Lumina]

Originally posted by ✪Asielra✪:

Just spent a night ganking/dueling with my friend, murked like 70+ ppl, only one did what you described. You sure you are not hyper-focused on this?

This problem is most present in Castle Stormveil around RL20-25.

[✪Asielra✪]

Originally posted by Lumina:

Originally posted by ✪Asielra✪:

Just spent a night ganking/dueling with my friend, murked like 70+ ppl, only one did what you described. You sure you are not hyper-focused on this?

This problem is most present in Castle Stormveil around RL20-25.

Jee, who'd like to play in this min-maxing dumpster?

[Lumina]

Originally posted by ✪Asielra✪:

Originally posted by Lumina:

This problem is most present in Castle Stormveil around RL20-25.

Jee, who'd like to play in this min-maxing dumpster?

The players who activate the summoning pools there to help hosts in early areas. You can not chose where you get summoned.

[✪Asielra✪]

Originally posted by Lumina:

The players who activate the summoning pools there to help hosts in early areas. You can not chose where you get summoned.

Ah, my bad, forgot this function is in the game. Ngl tho, the PvP meta on these levels is more toxic than the Lake of Rot, lol.

[Turt]

It wouldn't help sadly. Cheats and mods like Grand Merchant, while great for making quick duel builds, also have the downside of easy twink builds as well. Which leads to the infestation of twinks we all have to deal with.

Low level PvP is notorious in all of the souls games for being overrun with twinks. I was doing a taunters run and had multiple invaders in Limgrave duel wielding Vykes and throwing rot pots. Best advice is to just avoid coop in early game. Like with any other souls game

[BeefJerkyHunter]

Originally posted by Lumina:

Originally posted by ✪Asielra✪:

Just spent a night ganking/dueling with my friend, murked like 70+ ppl, only one did what you described. You sure you are not hyper-focused on this?

This problem is most present in Castle Stormveil around RL20-25.

Correct, I didn't convey this very well in my post. I can outlast scarlet rot for the most part since I slapped 28 points into Vigor for my level 29 character (subsequently less damage from me but I ain't dying on the host at least). But the host, nope, they only have 6-7 flasks max with low Vigor. Once they get the rot, death is inevitable.

[BeefJerkyHunter]

Originally posted by Turt:

It wouldn't help sadly. Cheats and mods like Grand Merchant, while great for making quick duel builds, also have the downside of easy twink builds as well. Which leads to the infestation of twinks we all have to deal with.

Low level PvP is notorious in all of the souls games for being overrun with twinks. I was doing a taunters run and had multiple invaders in Limgrave duel wielding Vykes and throwing rot pots. Best advice is to just avoid coop in early game. Like with any other souls game

The problem is that "twink" builds are able to use rot items if their initial strike doesn't pan out.
It apparent that the anti-cheat for this game isn't very effective but it does catch some people. Not everybody is willing to install a cheat especially when a method that won't even have a chance to be flagged is known.