Seriously put some points into vigor....

[Deviant]

i dont understand on my 138 rune level character i invade alot of times hosts with less than 1k hp....why are they not investing into vigor like 50 points atleast? then i tried pvp at 200 rune evel and again same thing i meet hosts with like 1200hp or less i am wondering what the hell are they investing into then? comon pick some vigor...

[Fineous🔥]

No thanks i already have 80 vigor.

Have a nice day and thanks for the suggestion.

[ProestUnicorn]

Just dodge is the wae

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Deviant:

i dont understand on my 138 rune level character i invade alot of times hosts with less than 1k hp....why are they not investing into vigor like 50 points atleast? then i tried pvp at 200 rune evel and again same thing i meet hosts with like 1200hp or less i am wondering what the hell are they investing into then? comon pick some vigor...

Because people like dodging and not facetanking (tho if you are invading they are in coop so....).

Prob if they hit they hit hard with their stats or can use multiple weapons with more than min stats to wield the weapons.

[Anewbous]

PVP=focus build------PVE=Scattered build.

[FIRE]

vigor is for cowards

[Deviant]

Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:

Originally posted by Deviant:

i dont understand on my 138 rune level character i invade alot of times hosts with less than 1k hp....why are they not investing into vigor like 50 points atleast? then i tried pvp at 200 rune evel and again same thing i meet hosts with like 1200hp or less i am wondering what the hell are they investing into then? comon pick some vigor...

Because people like dodging and not facetanking (tho if you are invading they are in coop so....).

Prob if they hit they hit hard with their stats or can use multiple weapons with more than min stats to wield the weapons.

no one is facetanking anything in this game not even with 99 vigor and 99 endurance you still need alot of hp becuz you will get hit no matter what

[Deviant]

Originally posted by Anewbous:

PVP=focus build------PVE=Scattered build.

wrong you can have pve build with 50 vigor too its literally the most important stat for pve and pvp so it makes no sense they dont invest in it when they got so much points to spend if they are level 200

[ProestUnicorn]

But why tank if You dodge everything. I always prefer to deal more damage in DS games, I don't need much hp if I 1-2 shot everything with my sword and dodge the rest. I can see someone wanting more endurance for heavier armor and bigger weapon and more dodging/swinging time, but You don't really need much vigor if You're good at the game.

I am talking about meeles/ hybrids though, I have never played a mage in all of the franchise, so no idea how it feels with little hp, but I don't imagine You need much to throw nukes from afar.

[Fineous🔥]

No seriously , 60 vigor or heck...55 should be more than enough. After 70 you gain like 3 HP each level....apply to same to mind.

Get one of those and always use it. You will get a decent amount of HP together with stamina.

https://eldenring.fandom.com/wiki/Erdtree%27s_Favor_%2B2

After killing Radagon you just have to go to the place that used to be full of misbegotten and dogs. The talisman is on top of some ruins, just prepare to die after you loot it...unless you want to kill 3 ulcerated spirits at once.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Deviant:

Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:

Because people like dodging and not facetanking (tho if you are invading they are in coop so....).

Prob if they hit they hit hard with their stats or can use multiple weapons with more than min stats to wield the weapons.

no one is facetanking anything in this game not even with 99 vigor and 99 endurance you still need alot of hp becuz you will get hit no matter what

No I wil not get hit no matter what, unless it is NIHIL, everything else I dont get hit unless I just failt at it and unless for Malenia, and only because of Waterfowl (and in case I fail once, to be able to survive 1 dodge that I miss at some wave), I can go with 10 VIG or 15 VIG that it would not make a difference (I obviously would have to retry bosses if I fail 1 dodge, that is life).

[CrescentMouse]

Man I have 99 Vigor and I still feel squishy, i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ regret putting my points into vigor. I still get two or three tapped in PvP

[River]

Originally posted by CrescentMouse:

Man I have 99 Vigor and I still feel squishy, i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ regret putting my points into vigor. I still get two or three tapped in PvP

So then respec at Rennala...

[CrescentMouse]

Originally posted by River:

Originally posted by CrescentMouse:

Man I have 99 Vigor and I still feel squishy, i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ regret putting my points into vigor. I still get two or three tapped in PvP

So then respec at Rennala...

Yeah I probably will but i dunno what to put the points into

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by CrescentMouse:

Originally posted by River:

So then respec at Rennala...

Yeah I probably will but i dunno what to put the points into

STR 60 and END 99, cut your hair and become SAITAMA.

[Fineous🔥]

Originally posted by CrescentMouse:

Man I have 99 Vigor and I still feel squishy, i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ regret putting my points into vigor. I still get two or three tapped in PvP

99 vigor means nothing if you have lousy damage negation, specially after high NG+.

Become BFF of Big Boggart to buy the max of those

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Boiled+Crab

Thats 20% damage reduction and you can eat them like if they were skittles

This for your flask

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Opaline+Hardtear

15% damage reduction for everything

And finally

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Dragoncrest+Greatshield+Talisman

This with a decent armor should be more than enough to be able to fail dodging one thing or two. Also of course spells to improve it but try to save one talisman slot for Dragoncrest greatshield.