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Scuzz 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 12:39
Farming in DS games compared to ER.
I have played all the DS games (no Demon Souls) and I don't remember them having the game approved farming that ER has. Places like the bird in Mogwyn or the Albenuerics there.

IIRC you had to actual go kill something to farm and the payoff was much less.

Have I forgotten something, or maybe just never knew about something in prior games?
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Twisty 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 1:48 
There was another post about this, probably still on the front page.
One of the comments went into detail of item duping which could be used to farm I think.

Aside from that, if people want to spend hours farming for no real benefit, let them. I'd rather spend that time killing bosses and farming rare weapons.
cybercybercybercyber4 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 1:50 
yes you have forgotten something.

DS2 has bonfire ascetics. you can use them to get enemies into ng+7,
using them in the doors of pharos and getting the hard-mode covenant will make the primal knight near the bonfire a farming place. the boss in the area is optional, so you wouldnt need to worry about shooting your own foot.
River 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 1:53 
DS1 also had the farming spot in the Forest.
NisseDood 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 1:56 
Pretty sure every souls game got a place with loads of souls for minimum effort.
cybercybercybercyber4 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:00 
i currently cannot remember anything from DS3, that would qualify as farming area.
If it exists, i guess i havent used it.
Silverlight 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:09 
It's fair.

If you play a souls game during release window you can summon 24/7 for a crapton runes.

Now you can make a crapton of runes now that traffic is a bit slower too.

It was always sad making a new DS1 character as the years went on, because I had to spend more time grinding giant knights and forest phantoms and less time doing Helping people with Ornstein and Smough on repeat

I think the Albenuerics are a good middle ground.
It doesn't take forever. Offers a decent challenge - so it gets less boring
Takes a minute to unlock as well.

最後修改者:Silverlight; 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:11
CazadorDeLobo 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:13 
As somebody who farmed every item in DS2, every piece of gear from every enemy... every set... ugh... it's worth it for the sake of the character you're playing. You gain convenience in many aspects of the game, as you have in abundance the resources meant to be scarce. You're close to freely abusing your power against any boss of your choosing. This is still the case but the farming is more complex; you get multiple resources in different areas which can serve you or never be useful. It's all up to you, and with item crafting, that can of worms is now wide open.

Farming is therapeutic. Whether it be resource gathering or slaying mobs for sets. If you want their gear, you can often get it. That's cool. DS1 was slightly more limited in which enemies dropped their gear, often gating their sets on corpses in mid to late game.
hemorrhage911 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:19 
Some of the gems in Dark Souls 3 were unbelievably low. Still have no idea why blessed and hollow gems had like a 1% drop rate.
SadPlatty© 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:53 
Dark Souls 2 - Giant Lord farm in the Forest area at the very end in one of the memories.

For those "not in the know" DS2 offered you "Bonfire Ascetics" which served the purpose of:
- Raising the current area (between the last and next bonfire) difficulty by one NG+ cycle, as well as the rewards
- Re-animating bosses, or enemies in a particular area that you have killed enough to despawn fully (or at least get the NG+ enemies to spawn)

The bonfire was then about 1.5 minutes from the Giant Lord, as well as - you guessed it, a re-spawning Ascetic (even now, I played DS2 right before ER and did this a couple of times).

The only "difficulty" is remembering his slow/telegraphed moves, as yes he does auto-gib after something like 6 cycles. To kill him, all you really do is just run pyromancy and queue up 3-5 of the one that spawned a flame that exploded after a second.

Do this for around 3-5 minutes per run and eventually the scaling caps so he just stops getting harder too, and it boils down to a pretty large farm. With the ring it was like 5 minutes = 390,000 souls ez

Edit : ahh, Cyber4^4 beat me to part of it lol; giant lord farm was still pretty big though so leaving as is otherwise.
最後修改者:SadPlatty©; 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:54
CazadorDeLobo 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:54 
引用自 SadPlatty©
Dark Souls 2 - Giant Lord farm in the Forest area at the very end in one of the memories.
I believe I have a video showing a Chaos Blade strat. There's also the Ice Rapier which is technically faster. I believe sorcery is the fastest way to kill him, given enough casts. Positioning yourself behind a particular ankle will always bait the same attack, in which you can roll to a particular position to trigger the attack again while getting hits in. Ultra cheese.

Off-topic but yeah, farming can be a means to getting your character ultra-stronk. DS2 PvE is so busted that it doesn't feel like you're overpowered even with uber high stats. Skill baby.
最後修改者:CazadorDeLobo; 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 2:56
Scuzz 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 4:15 
I should have opened with the fact that I have no problem with anyone wanting to farm. It is your game and you can do as you please.

I was just curious about farming in the other games. I can't remember anything like the birds at Mogwyn's where you can easily get a couple hundred thousand runes in 10-15 minutes.

DS2 with the bonfire aescetics is probably the closest thing FROM has done besides that. But it does seem like FROM set that place up for farming. It is designed into the game. Why else make that shot possible?

DS1 if you get to Ornstein and Smough and feel like you need levels you basically have to hunt Silver Knights.
CazadorDeLobo 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 4:19 
引用自 Scuzz
I should have opened with the fact that I have no problem with anyone wanting to farm. It is your game and you can do as you please.

I was just curious about farming in the other games. I can't remember anything like the birds at Mogwyn's where you can easily get a couple hundred thousand runes in 10-15 minutes.

DS2 with the bonfire aescetics is probably the closest thing FROM has done besides that. But it does seem like FROM set that place up for farming. It is designed into the game. Why else make that shot possible?

DS1 if you get to Ornstein and Smough and feel like you need levels you basically have to hunt Silver Knights.
Think about the progression required to reach such farming points. This is designed for players who know the game and want to skip the "normal" route of acquiring strength and upgrades, more than likely for the sake of multiplayer; to give everyone a single, solid farm, it giving everyone fairly equal tools to progress their character into a build of their choosing.
ɸ It That Dwells ɸ 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 4:20 
My dumbass read this as literal farming. Hollows just raking the fields for them rotted yields.
Weedsmell 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 4:21 
引用自 River
DS1 also had the farming spot in the Forest.
ahah i just remembered that corner under the stairs, good times
CazadorDeLobo 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 4:22 
引用自 Weedsmell
引用自 River
DS1 also had the farming spot in the Forest.
ahah i just remembered that corner under the stairs, good times
I used them as time-killing devices while I waited for invaders. Parry practice doesn't exactly translate from a 0-lag environment to a measurably and exponentially more delayed environment.
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