So now that big youtubers are comming out and pointing out all the flaws of the game can we please have a normal discussion about it?

[Witch ~]

Because everytime someone tried it just boils down to ppl saying the same stuff like a broken record about how OP is just a contrarian

[[-iD-]]

why does it matter what a "big youtuber" says?

[An Irate Walrus]

We can, on one condition: that folks stop treating YouTubers, Twitchers, and various other forms of "streamers" as if they are reliable fonts of valid information, rather than what they are: entertainers who trade on shock and trends for views and revenue.

[Sonnenbank]

okay which youtuber came out ?

i only follow Ongbal and Ginomachino on EldenRing

so i completely missed it

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

okay which youtuber came out ?

i only follow Ongbal and Ginomachino on EldenRing

so i completely missed it

He probably means the PvP survey, brb with the link

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

okay which youtuber came out ?

i only follow Ongbal and Ginomachino on EldenRing

so i completely missed it

He probably means the PvP survey, brb with the link

https://eldenringpvp.net/

that thing

[Senki]

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

We can, on one condition: that folks stop treating YouTubers, Twitchers, and various other forms of "streamers" as if they are reliable fonts of valid information, rather than what they are: entertainers who trade on shock and trends for views and revenue.

what, so you mean that just because someone has thousands of people watching their videos they aren't objectively correct? I refuse to believe it

[mpcgannon]

do you trust YouTubeers more than steam users because you can see their face or because there's a like button?

[stompie5]

Deconstruction, as the result of postmodernism, is the new trend in videos. The YouTubers are just trying to capitalize on the trend. Elden Ring is still great. Success with YouTube is hard, so I wish them luck!

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by Senki:

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

We can, on one condition: that folks stop treating YouTubers, Twitchers, and various other forms of "streamers" as if they are reliable fonts of valid information, rather than what they are: entertainers who trade on shock and trends for views and revenue.

what, so you mean that just because someone has thousands of people watching their videos they aren't objectively correct? I refuse to believe it

If high school taught me anything, it's that popularity is the same thing as intelligence and basic factual evidence...for other people chasing the popularity train, anyhow.

[Sirius]

Originally posted by Senki:

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

We can, on one condition: that folks stop treating YouTubers, Twitchers, and various other forms of "streamers" as if they are reliable fonts of valid information, rather than what they are: entertainers who trade on shock and trends for views and revenue.

what, so you mean that just because someone has thousands of people watching their videos they aren't objectively correct? I refuse to believe it

I know right?
Likes and views equal validity. Obviously. Highly trained in critical thinking, those YouTubers, only in it for objective opinions.

Now excuse me, I need to buy a gift for the wife - I decided on a jade egg from Goop because I've heard so many good things from so many people on the internet.

Stones are magical, right?

[BlackSunEmpire]

Good luck trying to argue with a cult about their belives😅



Also not every youtuber has a reasonable take on games. Here is an example:

reasonable, well thought out take on Horizon: Forbidden West:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_p4Xou_lbA

unreasonable take (no real balancing of pros and cons) on Horizon: Forbidden West:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdFGdR28Gp8

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by |x|SiriuS|x|:

Originally posted by Senki:

what, so you mean that just because someone has thousands of people watching their videos they aren't objectively correct? I refuse to believe it

I know right?
Likes and views equal validity. Obviously. Highly trained in critical thinking, those YouTubers, only in it for objective opinions.

Now excuse me, I need to buy a gift for the wife - I decided on a jade egg from Goop because I've heard so many good things from so many people on the internet.

Stones are magical, right?

All depends on where you shove them, honestly.

[Witch ~]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

He probably means the PvP survey, brb with the link

https://eldenringpvp.net/

that thing

What the hell is that jesus. I dont like the pvp in ER but thats just... why? There's literally a coop mod.

Then again maybe that motivates From to finally make an actual fun pvp system for once

[space]

i couldn't care less about toobers

[RubbaKeys16k]

Originally posted by Witch ~:

Because everytime someone tried it just boils down to ppl saying the same stuff like a broken record about how OP is just a contrarian

You haven't said anything that can be discussed. What are "all the flaws"? I've played over 400 hours, enjoyed it, haven't seen a mass of flaws that are worth talking about. It's a video game, some like it, some don't, lots of people come here and just go blaaaaaaaaaah with various types of word vomit for no apparent reason.