Elden Ring cannot be the "greatest game of all time" with such a skill barrier

[negazina]

Accessibility is literally non-existent. its a game made by ableists.

Even Dead Cells, an incredibly difficult roguelike added hundreds of accessibility settings to make the game easy to outright a joke. and you know what? bravo to Motion Twin, they literally said "screw the elitists" and did it even with the revolt from elitist gamers.

Miyazaki-san, PLEASE give us any sort of mode or setting suite to make Elden Ring actually approachable for the 400 million+ gamers (46 million in the US alone) left out due to physical/mental impairments.

I CANNOT say this game is anywhere near Game of all time without lowering the approachability floor. It WILL be if it was some sort of accessible

[John Titor]

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...Miyazaki-san, PLEASE give us any sort of mode or setting suite to make Elden Ring actually approachable for the 400 million+ gamers (46 million in the US alone) left out due to physical/mental impairments...

Dear player,

I give you Mimic spirit ashes, Comet Azur, Rivers of Blood, Bull-Goat armor, vigor stat, and highly skilled players to summon who beat bosses for you. You must be in coma if you can't beat game. I will work on dream-to-game interface now.

Sincerely,
Japanese game man.

[negazina]

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everyone keeps telling me about this guy and its not a relevant argument. this guy is literally in the spotlight for playing a video game, its awesome, but he shouldn't go through thousands more hours than a typical person would to play it.

No, he's exactly the kind of player souldborne games are meant for.

imagine having to adapt vigorously just to play a mostly singleplayer game.

[Komarimaru]

There's a difference between accessibility, and changing a game. You mention Dead Cells, which is nothing like a Soulbourne game. You're literally expected and meant to die and restart.

Soulsbourne you're expected to learn and get better.

Rogue style =/= Souls style.

The only accessibility they should have, and do have, is for those with disabilities.

[ZX119A]

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No, he's exactly the kind of player souldborne games are meant for.

imagine having to adapt vigorously just to play a mostly singleplayer game.

That's kind of the point of the genre. Some people just have to do more to adapt than others.

[ɸ It That Dwells ɸ]

If you don't believe that Elden Ring honestly has any accessibility options or features, despite knowing the game, then you're unlikely to be convinced.

Alternatively, I can offer a solution for PC players with the use of mods. One of the most downloaded mods on NexusMods is in fact an Easy Mode mod. Perhaps this will allow those with impairments a better chance at overcoming their disabilities for the sake of experiencing Elden Ring even to a small degree.

However, I encourage you and others to try it for what it is, and to persevere. Fight for your humanity, your sense of purpose and drive that keeps you human, so that despite the struggles and hopelessness of the world your existence will not fade into meaninglessness - so that you may not go hollow.

[squee]

Oh god, who comes to dark souls game to cry about it being hard? Is not the elden ring easiest of all?

[ZX119A]

Postat inițial de ɸ Keeper M'thi'ria ɸ:

If you don't believe that Elden Ring honestly has any accessibility options or features, despite knowing the game, then you're unlikely to be convinced.

Alternatively, I can offer a solution for PC players with the use of mods. One of the most downloaded mods on NexusMods is in fact an Easy Mode mod. Perhaps this will allow those with impairments a better chance at overcoming their disabilities for the sake of experiencing Elden Ring even to a small degree.

However, I encourage you and others to try it for what it is, and to persevere. Fight for your humanity, your sense of purpose and drive that keeps you human, so that despite the struggles and hopelessness of the world your existence will not fade into meaninglessness - so that you may not go hollow.

There are a lot of people who get caught up in the hype of a game, and want to partake in it, but don't actually have the skill, the patience, or the time to play through it and beat it. I would wager 99% of people who downloaded that easy mode mod aren't actually physically impaired or disabled.

As to your last point, let us not forget the DS1 lore reason for all of the Hollows you came across: they were people who gave up. They were unable to adapt, they were unable to overcome the obstacles in their way, and so they gave up. The entire point of the game is for you to keep your head up and march forward; to persevere against the odds, no matter how difficult the enemy.

And yet proposing an easy mode, and utilizing mods for that purpose is no different than stating, "I can't do this. I give up." You've already gone hollow.

Like someone else said, accessibility options should exist for actual physical impairments. If you're color blind, or need subtitles or something, absolutely. Features to alleviate those issues should exist. If you're just bad at the game, that isn't enough justification for an easy mode. If you want to take part in the hype, and feel like you belong to something, that isn't a good enough justification, either.

People just need to play the game, and frankly, get good, but unironically. If the challenge is too much, that's fine. There are plenty of games out there. Don't demand a core aspect of the genre change so that you can be included, though. That's absurd.

[Dollmaker]

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Oh god, who comes to dark souls game to cry about it being hard?

Just about every game journalist.

[NisseDood]

Souls series isnt even the hardest souls like.

[königplatzen]

Several starter tips:
- Don't expect to beat Crafted scion
- Don't miss the tutorial cave. Jump down after you wake up in the cave.
- Don't expect to beat Tree sentinel
- Don't expect to beat Margit, after you first roam Limgrave and Weeping Island
- Search for Mining tunnels for upgrade material

From soft always has some ridiculous hard enemies in the beginning, you are not supposed to beat yet unless your are super experienced.

[Chan]

You can farm runes and over level then summon people or use ashes to summon help. Almost none of the bosses will one shot if you pump vit up and go an int build, so realistically it's less about difficulty and more so people refusing to approach it from the easiest method possible simply because they're unwilling to try.

[lar unuruur]

sickening attitude. let`s flatten mountains, so everyone can climb to "the top". let`s dry waters, so everyone can swim over sea. idiocy!

[GoreTiger]

Who actually thinks this is the greatest game of all time? That's some heavy fanboyism right there.

[ɸ It That Dwells ɸ]

Postat inițial de Zeonix:

Postat inițial de ɸ Keeper M'thi'ria ɸ:

If you don't believe that Elden Ring honestly has any accessibility options or features, despite knowing the game, then you're unlikely to be convinced.

Alternatively, I can offer a solution for PC players with the use of mods. One of the most downloaded mods on NexusMods is in fact an Easy Mode mod. Perhaps this will allow those with impairments a better chance at overcoming their disabilities for the sake of experiencing Elden Ring even to a small degree.

However, I encourage you and others to try it for what it is, and to persevere. Fight for your humanity, your sense of purpose and drive that keeps you human, so that despite the struggles and hopelessness of the world your existence will not fade into meaninglessness - so that you may not go hollow.

There are a lot of people who get caught up in the hype of a game, and want to partake in it, but don't actually have the skill, the patience, or the time to play through it and beat it. I would wager 99% of people who downloaded that easy mode mod aren't actually physically impaired or disabled.

As to your last point, let us not forget the DS1 lore reason for all of the Hollows you came across: they were people who gave up. They were unable to adapt, they were unable to overcome the obstacles in their way, and so they gave up. The entire point of the game is for you to keep your head up and march forward; to persevere against the odds, no matter how difficult the enemy.

And yet proposing an easy mode, and utilizing mods for that purpose is no different than stating, "I can't do this. I give up." You've already gone hollow.

Like someone else said, accessibility options should exist for actual physical impairments. If you're color blind, or need subtitles or something, absolutely. Features to alleviate those issues should exist. If you're just bad at the game, that isn't enough justification for an easy mode. If you want to take part in the hype, and feel like you belong to something, that isn't a good enough justification, either.

People just need to play the game, and frankly, get good, but unironically. If the challenge is too much, that's fine. There are plenty of games out there. Don't demand a core aspect of the genre change so that you can be included, though. That's absurd.

Mostly disagree.
Difficulty is relative.

[Ulmace]

I agree that the game could be more accessible to people with a physical disability, but they already made the game accessible for people with a mental disability, so what else do you need.