Mimic Veil Not Working/Broken?

[RED]

So I just returned to the game this week after a few months off. I play with a friend. After the first few times this happened, I decided I needed to start recording when I got invaded...

We use veils often to get invaders to leave because we're just trying out goofy builds and hate when we get invaded after being in a groove of some dumb, healthy fun. There have been five different occasions of invaders waltzing right up to me from a great distance, around corners, barriers, etc, stopping in front of me, and waving "hi" before kicking me out of the mimic veil. They'll even sometimes go and wave at both of us directly before poking one of us out. Neither of us move or give ourselves away.

Today I had a guy drop down in front of me from a roof, wave at me (a barrel against a wall in a shady corner who hadn't moved in a full minute after he spawned out of visible distance) and then kick me out before one-shotting my friend and pummeling me into the ground.

So is the veil broken?... Is there some different way of using it now or change I'm not seeing in change notes? Or is this just some new cheat that's become a huge norm? I'll work on cutting/uploading the vid of the latest invasion.

[rkmugen]

They're locking onto you and your friends. If I'm not mistaken, it works regardless of whether or not you or your friends are using the Mimic Veil.

[Narm]

Whenever I decide to start invading again, I usually pick one area, learn it like the back of my hand, then start invading. I will even coop somewhere just to learn what other invaders are doing. I will have literally picked out areas where the mimic is viable.

Most likely, they knew that the object you transformed into isn't normally there. Unless you were wearing the black knife chest or raptor's black feathers. They're bugged with the mimic veil and it shows your player model at the same time as the mimic'd model. You should also see it if that's the case though.

So yeah, invader probably recognized that those crates aren't normally there. Don't underestimate us.

Origineel geplaatst door rkmugen:

They're locking onto you and your friends. If I'm not mistaken, it works regardless of whether or not you or your friends are using the Mimic Veil.

Pretty sure you can't lock onto people using the mimic veil.

[RED]

Origineel geplaatst door Narm:

So yeah, invader probably recognized that those crates aren't normally there. Don't underestimate us.

I would definitely believe that if in some of these cases they didn't turn a corner specifically to look at me, already heading towards me beyond a few walls and paths :(. I'm not wearing those talismans or armor, no, I'll ask my buddy if he is.

[Toad]

Invaders have a compass icon that leads them to your general location. After that most invaders will know the environment well enough to pick you out, especially if they can't visibly see any players out in the open. Some mimic items even have a slightly different shade to them, which can be seen by those who know what they're looking for.

[Troglodyte]

Origineel geplaatst door Narm:

Whenever I decide to start invading again, I usually pick one area, learn it like the back of my hand, then start invading. I will even coop somewhere just to learn what other invaders are doing. I will have literally picked out areas where the mimic is viable.

Most likely, they knew that the object you transformed into isn't normally there. Unless you were wearing the black knife chest or raptor's black feathers. They're bugged with the mimic veil and it shows your player model at the same time as the mimic'd model. You should also see it if that's the case though.

So yeah, invader probably recognized that those crates aren't normally there. Don't underestimate us.

Origineel geplaatst door rkmugen:

They're locking onto you and your friends. If I'm not mistaken, it works regardless of whether or not you or your friends are using the Mimic Veil.

Pretty sure you can't lock onto people using the mimic veil.

They have waypoint and they can lock on so fromsoft gave all stupid invaders a handicap

[suetsumuhana]

Well, mimic veil is broken, so to say, because, as already has been said, unlike the previous games, invaders have a compass, which leads them to a narrow area where you hide. It ruins all the fun, if you ask me.

[Narm]

Origineel geplaatst door RED:

Origineel geplaatst door Narm:

So yeah, invader probably recognized that those crates aren't normally there. Don't underestimate us.

I would definitely believe that if in some of these cases they didn't turn a corner specifically to look at me, already heading towards me beyond a few walls and paths :(. I'm not wearing those talismans or armor, no, I'll ask my buddy if he is.

Somebody else already mentioned it, but I forgot to mention that there is a marker on the compass showing the hosts position when you invade, but only when you're a certain distance away from the host. And furled fingers have no marker. Basically, the host can't completely hide with the mimic veil, they'll always know your general position.

Generally with the mimic veil, you'd either only use it when the invader is nearby so they don't use the compass, or in a place where you blend in well and you're positioned near the entrance so you can sneak attack before they have time to figure out which thing you are (and the compass guarantees that they will come to you), or in your particular case, you serve as bait and a center of attention for the invader and the furled finger uses the mimic to pull off an ambush. You can also have your buddy find a good place to ambush with the mimic, and just lure the invader there.

Also, the mimic veil bug I mentioned. You'd know if it was happening. You'd be seeing both the mimic model and player model at the same time on anybody that it's happening to.