Seamless COOP mod has ruined Eldin ring multiplayer

[RobbySkaz]

Started a new character to do another run of the game after not playing it ever since the dark souls 3 servers came back on, and I’m shocked at how empty and dead this game seems now (even with healthy steam player numbers)

No summon signs practically anywhere, I may have seen 4 total signs available in 4 ish hours of play, not to mention the 3-5 minute matching times for a single invasion.

I totally understand the appeal of the coop mod as it eliminates the summon system alot of players find annoying but the trade off being basically no player activity in the vanilla game seems terrible.

I was expecting to come back to Eldin ring and see double or even triple the amount of summon signs as dark souls 3 with being such an old game but it’s literally the total opposite.

I believe this all stems from the decision of making invasions only target 2+ players (old news) and the lower cap on how many phantoms can be in one world at once, also the lack of covanents to add rewards to PVP for players. The New Seamless Coop mod is just the final nail in the coffin it seems.

Maybe I am the outlier in thinking this is going to be a negative to the overall game, if so I’m curious to hear your take on it.

To any players who are just totally put off by the PVP aspect I highly recommend you Give it a try, the invasion system that the souls games (and ER) has is one of a kind.

(PS if you are one of the ppl who invades into level 15 player worlds with twink’d out high level gear and armor just to stomp new players YOU are a major part of the problem pushing players away from this side of the game)



Edit - Even looking at the major Eldin Ring discords or LFG groups will reinforce this, i"d say 50% at least of the players active in the LFG discord channels are all using the Mod.

[Fineous🔥]

Agree. Even getting a fair amount of co-op action when i want it that bloody mod makes me wait more....

I hope From blacklist the damn thing and improve the current system, giving the people who had to use a shaddy third pary software to get the multiplayer experience they wanted with the game mechanics......

[Lumina]

The problem must be on your end. I'm playing coop every day a few hours, sending my sign to "near and far" summoning pools.
I get summoned a lot and also see many other random phantoms and invaders.
It was very active on lvl 30 / 40 / 50 / 60.
Since I'm lvl 70 it takes a bit longer to get summoned, but still good.

You should check the matchmaking and the right weapon upgrade for your level, when you upgrade too high, you can't get summoned.

[John Titor]

Originally posted by RobbySkaz:

Seamless COOP mod has ruined Eldin ring multiplayer

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_rfvdgFG5o

[Fineous🔥]

Originally posted by Lumina:

The problem must be on your end. I'm playing coop every day a few hours, sending my sign to "near and far" summoning pools.
I get summoned a lot and also see many other random phantoms and invaders.
It was very active on lvl 30 / 40 / 50 / 60.
Since I'm lvl 70 it takes a bit longer to get summoned, but still good.

You should check the matchmaking and the right weapon upgrade for your level, when you upgrade too high, you can't get summoned.

He is right and i saw you answering "help" threads. We both have no problem thanks our RL and weapons, but less experienced people have to use a damn mod....there would more activity around the forums/discord.
An improvement for the Elden Ring community.

[RobbySkaz]

Originally posted by Lumina:

The problem must be on your end. I'm playing coop every day a few hours, sending my sign to "near and far" summoning pools.
I get summoned a lot and also see many other random phantoms and invaders.
It was very active on lvl 30 / 40 / 50 / 60.
Since I'm lvl 70 it takes a bit longer to get summoned, but still good.

You should check the matchmaking and the right weapon upgrade for your level, when you upgrade too high, you can't get summoned.

I appreciate you trying to help, but I assure you it is not that. I am super familiar with how the matchmaking works on these games.

[RobbySkaz]

Originally posted by Fineous:

Agree. Even getting a fair amount of co-op action when i want it that bloody mod makes me wait more....

I hope From blacklist the damn thing and improve the current system, giving the people who had to use a shaddy third pary software to get the multiplayer experience they wanted with the game mechanics......

I totally agree, I want the coop and PVP side to both be improved!

[The Spirit of Jazz]

Has it though? I've been getting summoned for coop pretty regularly and get invaded pretty frequently unless we're through the fog door right away. Doesn't feel dead to me.

[RobbySkaz]

Originally posted by The Spirit of Jazz:

Has it though? I've been getting summoned for coop pretty regularly and get invaded pretty frequently unless we're through the fog door right away. Doesn't feel dead to me.

You being summoned regularly doesn't correlate to lots of players placing signs down over using seamless coop when playing with friends. BUT Props to you for still being a Summonable Sun Bro of ER

[[LZ]Icy]

Originally posted by RobbySkaz:

Originally posted by The Spirit of Jazz:

Has it though? I've been getting summoned for coop pretty regularly and get invaded pretty frequently unless we're through the fog door right away. Doesn't feel dead to me.

You being summoned regularly doesn't correlate to lots of players placing signs down over using seamless coop when playing with friends. BUT Props to you for still being a Summonable Sun Bro of ER :praisesun:

Noticed it since release , but 1.06 did fix it. but imagine if there was no such mod , indeed.

[The Spirit of Jazz]

Originally posted by RobbySkaz:

Originally posted by The Spirit of Jazz:

Has it though? I've been getting summoned for coop pretty regularly and get invaded pretty frequently unless we're through the fog door right away. Doesn't feel dead to me.

You being summoned regularly doesn't correlate to lots of players placing signs down over using seamless coop when playing with friends. BUT Props to you for still being a Summonable Sun Bro of ER :praisesun:

Well I use the summoning pools near/far rather than just putting a sign down so that might be why.

[Fineous🔥]

You should be using pools yes. Thats basically what everyone does....

[RobbySkaz]

Originally posted by The Spirit of Jazz:

Originally posted by RobbySkaz:

You being summoned regularly doesn't correlate to lots of players placing signs down over using seamless coop when playing with friends. BUT Props to you for still being a Summonable Sun Bro of ER

Well I use the summoning pools near/far rather than just putting a sign down so that might be why.

When I say "placing signs down" that's what I really mean just being able to be summoned, sorry lol still stuck in my souls lingo

[John Titor]

Originally posted by RobbySkaz:

Originally posted by The Spirit of Jazz:

Has it though? I've been getting summoned for coop pretty regularly and get invaded pretty frequently unless we're through the fog door right away. Doesn't feel dead to me.

You being summoned regularly doesn't correlate to lots of players placing signs down over using seamless coop when playing with friends. BUT Props to you for still being a Summonable Sun Bro of ER

At the same time, Seemless Coop isn't the end of the story either. Lot's of things have/still contribute to there being few to no summons.

[RobbySkaz]

Originally posted by John Titor:

Originally posted by RobbySkaz:

You being summoned regularly doesn't correlate to lots of players placing signs down over using seamless coop when playing with friends. BUT Props to you for still being a Summonable Sun Bro of ER

At the same time, Seemless Coop isn't the end of the story either. Lot's of things have/still contribute to there being few to no summons.

I totally agree, I just think this is a major hit when considering everything else going against it.

[vaanomega]

Using Steam numbers isn't a reliable way to know how many player are using the mod, how many are playing vanilla online and how many are solo players

if yo think that Coop-mod is the only one to "take away" players from the base game, you should also blame Solo players for it, or Randomizers, or any mods since using a mod prevent people to play on official servers