Why TF do enemies get to crit you when you shield and run out of stamina?

[Syro System]

YOU don't get to do that, you only get to crit them if you break their stance, not when you knock their shield aside.
But when YOUR shield gets knocked aside, they not only get to crit you, but it's an instant kill no matter what your HP and armor is.

[GubbyTheChubby]

always when you run and show your back or your flank to the Enemy it can crit you, its common RPG mechanic and even as old as the first Pen & Paper Rulesets of D&D xD

[SleepyEyez]

Although souls combat is the simplified version of fighting games' Frame Data combat, Guard meter/gauge and Guard Crush/Crash/Break are still there.

[GubbyTheChubby]

yep the most basic Fight for a Game but still effective because it has the best respond features thats why Souls like Games are so fun and hated to be played, it doesnt make you unbeliveable overpowered and lazy it keeps you hold your attention what youre doing

[Lenox]

Originally posted by SleepyEyez:

Although souls combat is the simplified version of fighting games' Frame Data combat, Guard meter/gauge and Guard Crush/Crash/Break are still there.

Never thought about it this way. I spent my youth playing fighting games (Mortal Kombat 1&2 especially) and was always sad that I no longer do. FromSoft scratches that itch!

[Syro System]

Then why, despite the fact that I always attack guard broken enemies, has a crit never once triggered?

[Lenox]

Originally posted by Syro System:

Then why, despite the fact that I always attack guard broken enemies, has a crit never once triggered?

Are you pressing forward on your joystick to move into them while attacking?

[cybercybercybercyber4]

Originally posted by Syro System:

Then why, despite the fact that I always attack guard broken enemies, has a crit never once triggered?

its inconsistent when you do it from the front, i only crit around 20% of the time when i try it from the front, thats why i run around them, in that case its basically 100%.

i have no idea what causes the inconsistency, my bet is that it depends on the angle to some degree.

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by mpcgannon:

Originally posted by John Titor:

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I'd rather be the giantest than the richest.

I swear, it always comes back to size for some dudes.

[TimeToBanzai]

Originally posted by Syro System:

YOU don't get to do that, you only get to crit them if you break their stance, not when you knock their shield aside.
But when YOUR shield gets knocked aside, they not only get to crit you, but it's an instant kill no matter what your HP and armor is.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2867497997
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2867500794
Works fine for me. Keep in mind that the window for a critical hit is quite small.

[Senki]

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

Originally posted by Syro System:

Then why, despite the fact that I always attack guard broken enemies, has a crit never once triggered?

its inconsistent when you do it from the front, i only crit around 20% of the time when i try it from the front, thats why i run around them, in that case its basically 100%.

i have no idea what causes the inconsistency, my bet is that it depends on the angle to some degree.

You have to move really close to them, that's why. If you keep attacking after a guard break with a weapon that has longer range it won't do it. It's consistent.

It's like a backstab but from the front.

[Deathwing Zero]

Another thing to point out, in case the above gifs don't display it enough:

Even if you're right up in that dudes face giving him the deepest kiss ever, if you're mashing the ♥♥♥♥ out of the attack button when you guard break you'll just keep beating them, and a single hit from any weapon will cancel any chance for a riposte. So don't button mash if you want crits.

[cybercybercybercyber4]

jo, tested it, and suprise.....
you guys are correct, the distance was the issue.
after hugging them, i can commence penetration, with my thrusting sword.

[Lenox]

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

Originally posted by Syro System:

Then why, despite the fact that I always attack guard broken enemies, has a crit never once triggered?

its inconsistent when you do it from the front, i only crit around 20% of the time when i try it from the front, thats why i run around them, in that case its basically 100%.

i have no idea what causes the inconsistency, my bet is that it depends on the angle to some degree.

Keep in mind that backstabs and ripostes (front) are not the same damage. Ripostes are more damage.

Also, while I don't have the same issue as you from shield-break ripostes, I do when it comes to stance-breaks on bosses. Not sure what that is. Sometimes it just doesn't work for me. And then sometimes it works when it shouldn't.

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

jo, tested it, and suprise.....
you guys are correct, the distance was the issue.
after hugging them, i can commence penetration, with my thrusting sword.

I love when positive results actually come from these discussions! This might also make the seemingly useless "Kick" Ash of War seem a little better if you're a low-FP character.

[Lenox]

Originally posted by TimeToBanzai:

Originally posted by Syro System:

YOU don't get to do that, you only get to crit them if you break their stance, not when you knock their shield aside.
But when YOUR shield gets knocked aside, they not only get to crit you, but it's an instant kill no matter what your HP and armor is.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2867497997
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2867500794
Works fine for me. Keep in mind that the window for a critical hit is quite small.

I need to learn to make my own GIFs. So cool.

[TimeToBanzai]

Originally posted by Lenox:

I need to learn to make my own GIFs. So cool.

It's pretty simple. You record a video (I use OBS Studio for this), cut out the moment you need from the video and save it in GIF format with any program convenient for you (I use Movavi Video Editor Plus), watch the size of the resulting file, because Steam does not allow you to upload files larger than 8 mb in your illustrations.