Whip question.

[bluehawk188]

So I finally decided on whips for my mages melee weapon as I have ALWAYS wanted to use them in a Dark Souls game but they weren't good then. But I digress.

Now my question is, I've been using the Magma Whip Candlestick and having fun with it, but for utility uses, would it be worth it more to try and get something like Hoslow's Petal Whip for the bleed?

Now I like the fire effect and secondary attack on the Magma whip but is the bleed on the other whip more useful?

Thanks.

[why are we here? just to suffer?]

WHIPS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GUD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgfeN2I1GZ4

[Marmarmar34]

Nice views

[BIG E.]

I am powerstancing two hoslow's petal whips and base bleed wouldn't really do much. Thats because whips aren't exactly fast, for example with claws you can proc bleed with base value because they are very fast, whips can't really do that quite easily.

Since you are a mage tho you can possibly infuse cold on hoslow's and that would be quite alright.

So i say if you wanna go bleed with whips go all bleed otherwise infusing cold seems more logical.

[Heimdall313]

Whips stagger lock some annoying stuff like rats, wolves, and soldiers without bleeding FP. Kinda slow for status spamming but pretty good for interrupting attacks.

[Clail]

I can't speak to ER's whips, but whips were viable in the previous games, definently not meta, but viable. I did surprisingly well on my "Belmont" builds in DS2 and DS3. You should definitely give it a shot if you ever go back to them.

[Señor Brown]

Originally posted by bluehawk188:

So I finally decided on whips for my mages melee weapon as I have ALWAYS wanted to use them in a Dark Souls game but they weren't good then. But I digress.

Dual poison-infused Spotted Whips from DS2 would beg to differ.

As for your question, pick whatever helps you the most in the moment. For example, both Crucible Knights and Erdtree Avatars are immune to bleed, but not frostbite. The latter are especially vulnerable to fire, though.

[bluehawk188]

Well, sticking with the Magma whip currently poses a minor problem. I can NOT find a Somber Smiting Stone 7 ANYWHERE the wiki says.

[why are we here? just to suffer?]

wait

did


did they remove ash of wars for whips?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp2iAvxVMg4

[Bricky strong]

Spank everyone, WHIP THEM, They say CONNECTION ERROR, WHIP THEM!

[Xengre]

Originally posted by BIG E.:

I am powerstancing two hoslow's petal whips and base bleed wouldn't really do much. Thats because whips aren't exactly fast, for example with claws you can proc bleed with base value because they are very fast, whips can't really do that quite easily.

Since you are a mage tho you can possibly infuse cold on hoslow's and that would be quite alright.

So i say if you wanna go bleed with whips go all bleed otherwise infusing cold seems more logical.

Can confirm, at least at RL1 with +0 dual wielding these seriously sucks. You will want to build for them properly to use them with good performance.

[goobyplz]

whips are sub optimal for status effects, stick with quality mechanics for them

[River Victor]

I use dual Hoslow Petal Whips to kill Malenia, Blade of Miquella. You out-range her and proc bleed a lot.

[Friends with Benedicts]

What abou dual whips since we're on the subject? I might try dex stuff on my second run

[ressenmacher]

Originally posted by Friends with Benedicts:

What abou dual whips since we're on the subject? I might try dex stuff on my second run

Honestly, I've found more success with a one-handed whip and something in the offhand that's faster for rollcatching and a get-out-of-my-face button.

The strongest attack on the whip is the rolling R1, and right after that the crouch R1. Dual wielding makes jumping attacks in particular much stronger, but I'd honestly rather just keep what was inherently good about whips and cover their weaknesses rather than trying to do something else well too.

[miscellaneous unc]

For PVP whips are a nice hardswap as they cannot be parried. I always have a pair for any build in case I find myself someone who's keen on parrying. As for PVE I can't speak on them much, but the Urumi has an amazing heavy attack with good AOE and range.