Reviving Torrent should default to the yes option

[Mankybus]

This is something that definitely needs addressing imo, personally I find it utterly infuriating how reviving Torrent with a Crimson Flask defaults to no, despite the fact the player clearly wants to revive him. This means the player has to take their thumb/finger off of the important buttons/keys in a very intense fight just to select yes and then confirm.

Needless to say this is a frustrating oversight and this should definitely be changed to default to yes, so all the player needs to do is confirm which alleviates a lot of the annoyance in this choice.

[Carighan]

Lucius Caesar eredeti hozzászólása:

this very specific thing is terrible UX and should definitely be improved, maybe if you use the ring twice, double tap the action, it bypasses the question entirely and just revives Torrent.

Yeah. Or just, well, you **are** explicitly selecting to summon torrent, just leave it at that. Use the flask, summon it.

The UX could be improved in a lot of places though.

[Mankybus]

NeonRed eredeti hozzászólása:

Agreed, but they should really just remove the yes/no UI and just go for the pot rez; If you trying to summon Torrent you're obviously doing it because you NEED him in that moment making the yes/no pointless.

I'm personally fine with there being a confirmation, mainly because that one flask could be your last flask in the fight, but done in a way that's far more user friendly and isn't a complete hassle.

I guess they could make better use of crafting raisins so Torrent uses 5 or even 10 of them to revive, that can be one way they can eliminate the confirmation entirely, so if you don't have the raisins you'll just get a message at the bottom of the screen saying you don't have the required amount, that will be there for a few seconds before fading away.

[Ulmace]

Mankybus eredeti hozzászólása:

NeonRed eredeti hozzászólása:

Agreed, but they should really just remove the yes/no UI and just go for the pot rez; If you trying to summon Torrent you're obviously doing it because you NEED him in that moment making the yes/no pointless.

I'm personally fine with there being a confirmation, mainly because that one flask could be your last flask in the fight, but done in a way that's far more user friendly and isn't a complete hassle.

I guess they could make better use of crafting raisins so Torrent uses 5 or even 10 of them to revive, that can be one way they can eliminate the confirmation entirely, so if you don't have the raisins you'll just get a message at the bottom of the screen saying you don't have the required amount, that will be there for a few seconds before fading away.

and then you gotta go farm flowers for raisins on foot

[Amereth]

to be fair, when he die that means i have to fight and i don't need him.

im curious can he revive using fp flask if you don't use hp flask ?

gonna have to test that.

[mpcgannon]

Mankybus eredeti hozzászólása:

This is something that definitely needs addressing imo, personally I find it utterly infuriating how reviving Torrent with a Crimson Flask defaults to no, despite the fact the player clearly wants to revive him. This means the player has to take their thumb/finger off of the important buttons/keys in a very intense fight just to select yes and then confirm.

Needless to say this is a frustrating oversight and this should definitely be changed to default to yes, so all the player needs to do is confirm which alleviates a lot of the annoyance in this choice.

All I read was the title and I'm sold. This one has the good ideas.

[Falleax]

There should be an option to the remove the prompt and just auto use a flask when trying to resummon him.

[Mecharion]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ yes... i ranted so hard because i lost a fight because of this stupid message...

[Kalameet]

Imagine having to perform a complex rite to use a flask to revive the horse.

Players: uNaCcEpTabLe

Git gud losers, git gud.

[Sir Latrine de Bretagne]

Don't even ask me, just do it!

[Mankybus]

Ulmace eredeti hozzászólása:

and then you gotta go farm flowers for raisins on foot

Considering how obscenely common rowa fruit are for making raisins, that's really not a big deal at all.

Kalameet eredeti hozzászólása:

Imagine having to perform a complex rite to use a flask to revive the horse.

Players: uNaCcEpTabLe

Git gud losers, git gud.

Lol it's not even a matter of skill or cunning or planning, it's just an oversight that makes what should be a very simple action needlessly tedious and flat out annoying. Gitting gud quite literally doesn't apply here because we don't have spiders for hands.

The player clearly wants to revive Torrent and From knows that, the fact they left the option on no is an objectively terrible design choice.

[Ulmace]

Mankybus eredeti hozzászólása:

Ulmace eredeti hozzászólása:

and then you gotta go farm flowers for raisins on foot

Considering how obscenely common rowa fruit are for making raisins, that's really not a big deal at all.

considering how obscenely fast it is to double press a button to summon the horse with a flask that's really not a big deal at all.

[Alphard]

Imagine when i got this prompt when i had to run from a dragon breath... terrible

[a4lawyers]

It seems intentional.

[Mankybus]

Ulmace eredeti hozzászólása:

considering how obscenely fast it is to double press a button to summon the horse with a flask that's really not a big deal at all.

Considering how obscenely dumb and ridiculous this issue is, asking to get this easily fixable problem solved so players can enjoy the game with as few UI frustrations as possible is really not a big deal at all.

You're not the only smart arse here. Your suggestion might be a decent one but it's a dumb way to make the player work around a problem that shouldn't be there to begin with. Besides, tell me who the ♥♥♥♥ would ever select no to begin with when they obviously want to revive Torrent? Makes zero sense.

a4luthers eredeti hozzászólása:

It seems intentional.

I highly doubt it's intentional. Almost every choice throughout the Miyazaki-directed games default their choices to no, including very important ones like accepting Solaire's jolly co-operation. I can't speak on their behalf, of course, but I am convinced that this is an oversight and likely one that From weren't very conscious of during play testing. It's an incredibly easy thing to fix and doing so will alleviate some needless tedium and frustration.

[Ulmace]

Mankybus eredeti hozzászólása:

Ulmace eredeti hozzászólása:

considering how obscenely fast it is to double press a button to summon the horse with a flask that's really not a big deal at all.

Considering how obscenely dumb and ridiculous this issue is, asking to get this easily fixable problem solved so players can enjoy the game with as few UI frustrations as possible is really not a big deal at all.

You're not the only smart arse here. Your suggestion might be a decent one but it's a dumb way to make the player work around a problem that shouldn't be there to begin with. Besides, tell me who the ♥♥♥♥ would ever select no to begin with when they obviously want to revive Torrent? Makes zero sense.

a4luthers eredeti hozzászólása:

It seems intentional.

I highly doubt it's intentional. Almost every choice throughout the Miyazaki-directed games default their choices to no, including very important ones like accepting Solaire's jolly co-operation. I can't speak on their behalf, of course, but I am convinced that this is an oversight and likely one that From weren't very conscious of during play testing. It's an incredibly easy thing to fix and doing so will alleviate some needless tedium and frustration.

i just made the exact same argument you made, thats all there is to it