Fire Giant is NOT hard.

[Muse Snooze]

1 try, level 90. Solo. It's SO easy. How are you kids bad at this fight??? Literally the easiest boss in the northern region, frankly the easiest boss of the second half of the game. Total joke.

[Corey]

Publicado originalmente por MundM:

Publicado originalmente por Corey:

Nobody thinks Fire Giant is hard. It's just an awful fight. Looks cool, but such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ slog. Dread coming to it every playthrough.

I just don't get why there's no Marika checkpoint in front of it. It's not like it takes 10 minutes to get there, but every other major boss had a very close comfort of life checkpoint, or even a grace pretty much right next to it.

They introduced Marika stakes in this game but barely use them when they count. In dungeons, sure, but rarely in the legacy dungeons where you know youll constantly be fighting a boss over and over. It's so dumb.

Example is any runback in Raya Lucaria... sure they aren't THAT bad but why not just put a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stake in front of the rooms??? Another example is Godskin Duo... the boss is brutal and there are two endgame enemies on the route to the boss why not use a stake???

[MundM]

Publicado originalmente por Corey:

Publicado originalmente por MundM:

I just don't get why there's no Marika checkpoint in front of it. It's not like it takes 10 minutes to get there, but every other major boss had a very close comfort of life checkpoint, or even a grace pretty much right next to it.

They introduced Marika stakes in this game but barely use them when they count. In dungeons, sure, but rarely in the legacy dungeons where you know youll constantly be fighting a boss over and over. It's so dumb.

Example is any runback in Raya Lucaria... sure they aren't THAT bad but why not just put a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stake in front of the rooms??? Another example is Godskin Duo... the boss is brutal and there are two endgame enemies on the route to the boss why not use a stake???

I almost forgot about the duo run. I only fought them 2 times, than thought F-it, and used an ash summon and barely defeated them. I thought I was entering from the wrong side all the time, because there was no checkpoint. Weird. It's like an oversight. Also, there's a summoning pool after the bossfight? Lol, what? So weird.

[Corey]

Publicado originalmente por MundM:

Publicado originalmente por Corey:

They introduced Marika stakes in this game but barely use them when they count. In dungeons, sure, but rarely in the legacy dungeons where you know youll constantly be fighting a boss over and over. It's so dumb.

Example is any runback in Raya Lucaria... sure they aren't THAT bad but why not just put a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stake in front of the rooms??? Another example is Godskin Duo... the boss is brutal and there are two endgame enemies on the route to the boss why not use a stake???

I almost forgot about the duo run. I only fought them 2 times, than thought F-it, and used an ash summon and barely defeated them. I thought I was entering from the wrong side all the time, because there was no checkpoint. Weird. It's like an oversight. Also, there's a summoning pool after the bossfight? Lol, what? So weird.

Like they made a point to spam graces everywhere but dont wanna abuse stakes of marika... also speaking of respawns why is passing time when dying a thing at all? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks dying to a deathbird and then NEEDING TO REST FOR ANOTHER 12 HOURS AT A GRACE TO MAKE IT NIGHT AGAIN. Seems like an absurd oversight for a company that's been making games for 20 years.

[MundM]

Publicado originalmente por Corey:

Publicado originalmente por MundM:

I almost forgot about the duo run. I only fought them 2 times, than thought F-it, and used an ash summon and barely defeated them. I thought I was entering from the wrong side all the time, because there was no checkpoint. Weird. It's like an oversight. Also, there's a summoning pool after the bossfight? Lol, what? So weird.

Like they made a point to spam graces everywhere but dont wanna abuse stakes of marika... also speaking of respawns why is passing time when dying a thing at all? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks dying to a deathbird and then NEEDING TO REST FOR ANOTHER 12 HOURS AT A GRACE TO MAKE IT NIGHT AGAIN. Seems like an absurd oversight for a company that's been making games for 20 years.

Amen! Resetting the day time is annoying. Unless there's a lore reason somewhere, it feels like an oversight. If I die at night, please have it be night when I respawn!

[Muse Snooze]

Publicado originalmente por Hoarah Loux, Warrior:

Publicado originalmente por Muse Snooze:

Swarm of Flies honestly might need a nerf. Ever spam that badboy?

No, but I've seen it in action. I got summoned for Malenia and the host summoned another guy who spammed that ♥♥♥♥. Malenia didn't stand a chance. She got stunlocked to death.

She can break out, I've tested on a lark with two people spamming it. She finds a way, though it does make the fight generally easier. I prefer stancebreaking with dual hammers.

[Muse Snooze]

Publicado originalmente por Rein:

Publicado originalmente por Muse Snooze:

Learn to read. At all. Everyone has quadruple pointed out that the few of you who misunderstand that I fought base game Fire Giant at lvl 90, and NG+ at level 180. Multiple people OTHER THAN ME called people like you "brainlets".

Sorry not my fault you're a brainlet who can't post without editing. Also it wouldn't even be an accomplishment if you killed the fire giant at sl 1 given you have enough time so why don't you look for a cookie in real life instead?

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[Zoid13]

Publicado originalmente por Muse Snooze:

1 try, level 90. Solo. It's SO easy. How are you kids bad at this fight??? Literally the easiest boss in the northern region, frankly the easiest boss of the second half of the game. Total joke.

that was my take away from it too.
i actually accidentally started the encounter while exploring and jumped off the cliff cos i already had him nearly dead on Phase 2 and didnt want to kill him yet.
went and did all the other snowy area and the H Tree first, finished some more stuff in the capital then came back.
killed him without even needing to heal lol (melee raptor claws)

[kestar]

Publicado originalmente por MundM:

Publicado originalmente por Corey:

Nobody thinks Fire Giant is hard. It's just an awful fight. Looks cool, but such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ slog. Dread coming to it every playthrough.

I just don't get why there's no Marika checkpoint in front of it. It's not like it takes 10 minutes to get there, but every other major boss had a very close comfort of life checkpoint, or even a grace pretty much right next to it.

There is a grace nearby just next to it. Look harder.

[Corey]

Publicado originalmente por kestar:

Publicado originalmente por MundM:

I just don't get why there's no Marika checkpoint in front of it. It's not like it takes 10 minutes to get there, but every other major boss had a very close comfort of life checkpoint, or even a grace pretty much right next to it.

There is a grace nearby just next to it. Look harder.

Still begs question of: why not just put a stake right in front of the fog gate to giant? They had no issues spamming graces in ER or bonfires in DS3, so why not just place a stake in front of every single fog gate in the entire game? Would make everyones' lives much easier.

[Muse Snooze]

Publicado originalmente por kestar:

Publicado originalmente por MundM:

I just don't get why there's no Marika checkpoint in front of it. It's not like it takes 10 minutes to get there, but every other major boss had a very close comfort of life checkpoint, or even a grace pretty much right next to it.

There is a grace nearby just next to it. Look harder.

This is 100% true, I have no clue how people miss this. I've seen this claim multiple times now.

[Bagg Boy (formerly Smoke)]

Publicado originalmente por Muse Snooze:

Publicado originalmente por Hoarah Loux, Warrior:

No, but I've seen it in action. I got summoned for Malenia and the host summoned another guy who spammed that ♥♥♥♥. Malenia didn't stand a chance. She got stunlocked to death.

She can break out, I've tested on a lark with two people spamming it. She finds a way, though it does make the fight generally easier. I prefer stancebreaking with dual hammers.

She *can* break out, but if its well timed, she can be stunned over and over again. It's pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane.

[Muse Snooze]

Publicado originalmente por Hoarah Loux, Warrior:

Publicado originalmente por Muse Snooze:

She can break out, I've tested on a lark with two people spamming it. She finds a way, though it does make the fight generally easier. I prefer stancebreaking with dual hammers.

She *can* break out, but if its well timed, she can be stunned over and over again. It's pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane.

Only bleed immune bosses are a challenge if one spams this nonsense spell on any fight. It's a floating blender.

[SmallGespenst]

Publicado originalmente por Corey:

Publicado originalmente por MundM:

I just don't get why there's no Marika checkpoint in front of it. It's not like it takes 10 minutes to get there, but every other major boss had a very close comfort of life checkpoint, or even a grace pretty much right next to it.

They introduced Marika stakes in this game but barely use them when they count. In dungeons, sure, but rarely in the legacy dungeons where you know youll constantly be fighting a boss over and over. It's so dumb.

Example is any runback in Raya Lucaria... sure they aren't THAT bad but why not just put a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stake in front of the rooms??? Another example is Godskin Duo... the boss is brutal and there are two endgame enemies on the route to the boss why not use a stake???

pretty sure it's a thematic thing for Raya Lucaria, they don't respect Marika, so no stakes at all in the dungeon.
Fire Giant it's just completely unneeded. it takes longer to go from the fogdoor to the boss, than from the grace to the fog.

[SmallGespenst]

Publicado originalmente por Corey:

Publicado originalmente por kestar:

There is a grace nearby just next to it. Look harder.

Still begs question of: why not just put a stake right in front of the fog gate to giant? They had no issues spamming graces in ER or bonfires in DS3, so why not just place a stake in front of every single fog gate in the entire game? Would make everyones' lives much easier.

there's literally further from the Fog to the boss than the Grace to the Fog. a stake would be completely pointless. in general there's no point using a Stake if there's literally zero enemies between Grace and Fog.

[Corey]

Publicado originalmente por SmallGespenst:

Publicado originalmente por Corey:

Still begs question of: why not just put a stake right in front of the fog gate to giant? They had no issues spamming graces in ER or bonfires in DS3, so why not just place a stake in front of every single fog gate in the entire game? Would make everyones' lives much easier.

there's literally further from the Fog to the boss than the Grace to the Fog. a stake would be completely pointless. in general there's no point using a Stake if there's literally zero enemies between Grace and Fog.

Once again, it makes getting back to a boss you lost against less of a hassle, its not about the enemies. Who cares if it seems pointless to you because its a short distance? DS3 had a bonfire every other ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ room and it would make fighting a hard boss way less annoying because you are already at the fog door the second you die.

Also for that Raya Lucaria argument, who cares if no stakes in her dungeon makes 'lore sense' it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks gameplay wise and this is a video game not a fantasy novel.