The homing ball of Elden Beast has to go

[roi]

It makes that fight a chore, honestly. Every other move is fine besides this one. I thought there was a way to bait and trigger some explosion for it to go away but I didn't find any.
It follows the player for like 30 seconds, always dealing cheap damage and reducing visibility.

[i whiffed that]

It's bad, but it ain't nerf it bad.

[Ragingfirefrog]

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ragingfirefrog:

All I'm getting is that you are complaining that the range of the explosion encompasses the boss and can hit you when you are on the other side of him. What exactly am I failing to understand?

The balance aspect that I specifically pointed out.

If my quality character dodges the hit, then goes behind him to try to punish, they get hit. If they wait until after the explosion, he is already moving and attacking again.

If my INT character dodges and goes behind him, they can just stand outside the range of the explosions and blast him with transient moonlight.

I literally already explained this:

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

It unfairly punishes melee players, while something like a mage can blast it with transient moonlight from outside its effective range. That is not well-balanced.

He has a couple attacks like that. The spear that creats the AoE around him, for example, forces you to wait but mages can easily punish it. If he does it twice in a row and then stays beside it, there is nothing a melee player can do but wait. Complaining about an advantage that mages have in just about every fight is a bit ridiculous. Not every attack is going to be punishable, especially if you are right next to him when he decides to throw one. He already has plenty of openings for melee players.

[DestinedLight]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ragingfirefrog:

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

The balance aspect that I specifically pointed out.

If my quality character dodges the hit, then goes behind him to try to punish, they get hit. If they wait until after the explosion, he is already moving and attacking again.

If my INT character dodges and goes behind him, they can just stand outside the range of the explosions and blast him with transient moonlight.

I literally already explained this:

He has a couple attacks like that. The spear that creats the AoE around him, for example, forces you to wait but mages can easily punish it. If he does it twice in a row and then stays beside it, there is nothing a melee player can do but wait. Complaining about an advantage that mages have in just about every fight is a bit ridiculous. Not every attack is going to be punishable, especially if you are right next to him when he decides to throw one. He already has plenty of openings for melee players.

Assuming he's ever in melee range before flying off to texas

[Ragingfirefrog]

Diposting pertama kali oleh DestinedLight:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ragingfirefrog:

He has a couple attacks like that. The spear that creats the AoE around him, for example, forces you to wait but mages can easily punish it. If he does it twice in a row and then stays beside it, there is nothing a melee player can do but wait. Complaining about an advantage that mages have in just about every fight is a bit ridiculous. Not every attack is going to be punishable, especially if you are right next to him when he decides to throw one. He already has plenty of openings for melee players.

Assuming he's ever in melee range before flying off to texas

I've never really had him avoid me a bunch. The Elden Beast on the other hand...

[DestinedLight]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ragingfirefrog:

Diposting pertama kali oleh DestinedLight:

Assuming he's ever in melee range before flying off to texas

I've never really had him avoid me a bunch. The Elden Beast on the other hand...

EB is way worse, radagon didn't avoid me much. Although i did punish every attack he made. He was easy enough

[D. Flame]

Diposting pertama kali oleh DestinedLight:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ragingfirefrog:

He has a couple attacks like that. The spear that creats the AoE around him, for example, forces you to wait but mages can easily punish it. If he does it twice in a row and then stays beside it, there is nothing a melee player can do but wait. Complaining about an advantage that mages have in just about every fight is a bit ridiculous. Not every attack is going to be punishable, especially if you are right next to him when he decides to throw one. He already has plenty of openings for melee players.

Assuming he's ever in melee range before flying off to texas

Exactly, with how often he jumps, zooms around, teleports, and spams AoEs, it is ridiculous that the lightning spear has a delayed explosion that hits 360 degrees around him and also covers his recovery, for what would otherwise be a fair opening.


I still beat him, but that fight was not balanced.

[DestinedLight]

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Assuming he's ever in melee range before flying off to texas

Exactly, with how often he jumps, zooms around, teleports, and spams AoEs, it is ridiculous that the lightning spear has a delayed explosion that hits 360 degrees around him and also covers his recovery, for what would otherwise be a fair opening.


I still beat him, but that fight was not balanced.

Only attack that ever messed me up was his multiple slams of massive AoE Cones
Ended up bringing black knife tiche and caestus and punching him to death

[D. Flame]

Diposting pertama kali oleh DestinedLight:

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Exactly, with how often he jumps, zooms around, teleports, and spams AoEs, it is ridiculous that the lightning spear has a delayed explosion that hits 360 degrees around him and also covers his recovery, for what would otherwise be a fair opening.


I still beat him, but that fight was not balanced.

Only attack that ever messed me up was his multiple slams of massive AoE Cones
Ended up bringing black knife tiche and caestus and punching him to death

When he does the 3 slams walk backwards, He does a cone but has a longer lasting ring in front of him.

When slams down the use BHS to dodge to the left or right. When he does the second one, BHS forward and a little to the side (idea is to get closer without being in danger of touching the ring), and when he does the third one, BHS towards his back side from your new location. That should keep you from getting hit, and it will give you an opening to hit him a few times.

[Dollmaker]

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Diposting pertama kali oleh DestinedLight:

Only attack that ever messed me up was his multiple slams of massive AoE Cones
Ended up bringing black knife tiche and caestus and punching him to death

When he does the 3 slams walk backwards, He does a cone but has a longer lasting ring in front of him.

When slams down the use BHS to dodge to the left or right. When he does the second one, BHS forward and a little to the side (idea is to get closer without being in danger of touching the ring), and when he does the third one, BHS towards his back side from your new location. That should keep you from getting hit, and it will give you an opening to hit him a few times.

Btw, i noticed that the first 2 cones stay on the ground and the third slam makes them all explode, so watch out for that.

[Ragingfirefrog]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dollmaker:

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

When he does the 3 slams walk backwards, He does a cone but has a longer lasting ring in front of him.

When slams down the use BHS to dodge to the left or right. When he does the second one, BHS forward and a little to the side (idea is to get closer without being in danger of touching the ring), and when he does the third one, BHS towards his back side from your new location. That should keep you from getting hit, and it will give you an opening to hit him a few times.

Btw, i noticed that the first 2 cones stay on the ground and the third slam makes them all explode, so watch out for that.

I've had so many hosts die to that.

[D. Flame]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dollmaker:

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

When he does the 3 slams walk backwards, He does a cone but has a longer lasting ring in front of him.

When slams down the use BHS to dodge to the left or right. When he does the second one, BHS forward and a little to the side (idea is to get closer without being in danger of touching the ring), and when he does the third one, BHS towards his back side from your new location. That should keep you from getting hit, and it will give you an opening to hit him a few times.

Btw, i noticed that the first 2 cones stay on the ground and the third slam makes them all explode, so watch out for that.

Don't really have an issue with it myself. My issue with him is the teleports. I still beat him, but his teleport spam and it having an explosion is what I get caught with the most.

[Ragingfirefrog]

Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dollmaker:

Btw, i noticed that the first 2 cones stay on the ground and the third slam makes them all explode, so watch out for that.

Don't really have an issue with it myself. My issue with him is the teleports. I still beat him, but his teleport spam and it having an explosion is what I get caught with the most.

The teleports ♥♥♥♥. The timing on them is so weird and he loves to do it right as I attack.

[yannypr]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Brishon:

Be better if the Elden Beast went away and they made a proper phase 2 to Radagon.

Don't want Elden Beast, but I would've wanted both Radagon and Elden Beast to be two separate and better designed bosses

[Dollmaker]

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Btw, i noticed that the first 2 cones stay on the ground and the third slam makes them all explode, so watch out for that.

Don't really have an issue with it myself. My issue with him is the teleports. I still beat him, but his teleport spam and it having an explosion is what I get caught with the most.

Yeah that explosion and his light pebbles or whatever are often what hurts me the most in his fight.