name 5 boss that we fight at their prime.

[hellatze]

every boss that we fight since demon soul nothing more than illusion and a shell of their former shelf.

i doubt fromsoft can make actual boss that can be fought at their prime. they doesn't have a guts to do so.

even elden best is wounded

[SmallGespenst]

that's kind of a theme actually, because so much of the story is history told through lore, most of he significant stuff is in the past, so it makes sense that everything is past their prime.
by the by, Bloodborne and Sekiro don't have that issue.

[hellatze]

Originally posted by SmallGespenst:

that's kind of a theme actually, because so much of the story is history told through lore, most of he significant stuff is in the past, so it makes sense that everything is past their prime.
by the by, Bloodborne and Sekiro don't have that issue.

its a cliche and i find it boring. they could just have optional boss where we fight at their prime.

like champion of gundyr. the only one i know of who we fight at their prime

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Isnt the 2 headed dragon a fight we go back in time to do?
Smough and orenstein I dont think were injured or super old as far as "prime" goes.
Honestly the the theme is "old guys bin in power now our turn" so it fits thematically.

[Knavenformed]

Pretty sure Godrick and Mohg are.
And Rannala's second phase is literally an illusion of her prime.

[hellatze]

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

Isnt the 2 headed dragon a fight we go back in time to do?
Smough and orenstein I dont think were injured or super old as far as "prime" goes.
Honestly the the theme is "old guys bin in power now our turn" so it fits thematically.

the 2 headed dtagon used to have 4 head

smough and ornstein is illusion.

so it doesnt count

[hellatze]

Originally posted by Knavenformed:

Pretty sure Godrick and Mohg are.
And Rannala's second phase is literally an illusion of her prime.

godrick is tarnished

mohg is weak

[SmallGespenst]

oh, and your five bosses at their prime;
1. Godrick, technically his prime would be the second phase of the fight, but close enough~
2. Rennala(controlled by Ranni?), she may be a little broken but the second phase of the fight is not impacted by that.
3. Morgot. hasn't had anything to actually weaken him, he's just been living his life and hunting tarnished.
4. Rykard/God Devouring Serpent. another like Godrick that's been biding his time and accumulating power.
5. I'm just going to make this one a compound of monsters like the Fully Grown FallingStar Beast and Ancient Dragons. they might not be shard bearers but they're not past their prime either~

full disclosure: I probably could come up with better stuff if I'd finished the game yet, so I can't speak for bosses like Mohg or Malkieth.

[badger vortex]

soldier of godrick

[Talon Rose]

1) The camera

[Freak4Leeks]

we fight sword saint isshin at his prime that is literally what he is that is his peak

[hellatze]

Originally posted by SmallGespenst:

oh, and your five bosses at their prime;
1. Godrick, technically his prime would be the second phase of the fight, but close enough~
2. Rennala(controlled by Ranni?), she may be a little broken but the second phase of the fight is not impacted by that.
3. Morgot. hasn't had anything to actually weaken him, he's just been living his life and hunting tarnished.
4. Rykard/God Devouring Serpent. another like Godrick that's been biding his time and accumulating power.
5. I'm just going to make this one a compound of monsters like the Fully Grown FallingStar Beast and Ancient Dragons. they might not be shard bearers but they're not past their prime either~

full disclosure: I probably could come up with better stuff if I'd finished the game yet, so I can't speak for bosses like Mohg or Malkieth.

godrick is tarnished.

like i said illusion doesnt count renalla we fight is illusion mae by ranni.

rykard turn himself into snake monster, not his former selves.

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by badger vortex:

soldier of godrick

you're not wrong~ there's literally no indication he's weakened in any way~

[hellatze]

topic : boss

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by hellatze:

Originally posted by SmallGespenst:

oh, and your five bosses at their prime;
1. Godrick, technically his prime would be the second phase of the fight, but close enough~
2. Rennala(controlled by Ranni?), she may be a little broken but the second phase of the fight is not impacted by that.
3. Morgot. hasn't had anything to actually weaken him, he's just been living his life and hunting tarnished.
4. Rykard/God Devouring Serpent. another like Godrick that's been biding his time and accumulating power.
5. I'm just going to make this one a compound of monsters like the Fully Grown FallingStar Beast and Ancient Dragons. they might not be shard bearers but they're not past their prime either~

full disclosure: I probably could come up with better stuff if I'd finished the game yet, so I can't speak for bosses like Mohg or Malkieth.

godrick is tarnished.

like i said illusion doesnt count renalla we fight is illusion mae by ranni.

rykard turn himself into snake monster, not his former selves.

Godrick isn't Tarnished though? he's a demigod that's been accumulating power through Grafting. once he grafts the dragon head he's the strongest he's ever been. he's at his prime in every sense.

Rennala may be an illusion in story, but in terms of mechanics it's literally just a fight with her at her strongest. it's straight-up what you're asking for.

Rykard made himself more powerful buy becoming a snake monster, a fight with the former Rykard would be dissappointing because he'd be significantly weaker seeing as the whole point of becoming the snake beast was to gain power.

[Monk]

That they are weakened us the only reason we stand a chance, that is kind of the entire point.

We are fighting dragons, demi gods and full on bloody gods as a mere mortal!

Though, I guess the majority of the dragons are not weakened, same for alot of optional bosses seem to be in top fightimg form.
Cruicibal knights, Loretta, dragons, statues, the evergaols 'inhabitants', commander what's his name, the red wolf, the ancestral spirits and the beast clergyman / malketh I guess along with the tree sentinels do not seem to be off their game.

Mohg, Gideon, Godfrey /loux all seem to be at full strength, snajey boy does not seem to be weakened either, though I guess we get an optional super weapon to help out there.

So, yeah I guess a bunch of the enemies are in good condition, but those that are practically gods are weakened giving us a chance to beat them.