so stars of ruin, when does this ♥♥♥♥ spell get a nerf?

[Charles Vane]

because its pretty fun playing against this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in a 3v1 fight, you roll dodge 2 instances other 8 intances damage you, you spell parry 3 instances other 7 damages you, the caster guy sits behind his friends spams like there is no tomorrow i dont even see him chugging a mana estus or anything , if you pressure caster, he just roll roll roll roll roll while other 2 friends put pressure on you i mean i dont understand whats keeping them so long to nerf stuff like this, make this ♥♥♥♥♥ mana cost 2x more so once in a blue moon i can see the caster using a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mana flask, seriously 2 months later player base will be like 10k at this rate,played all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from soft games pvp at launch and this is by far the worst

[Sparhawk 59]

Why dont they just nerf everything then players like you will then cray about that

[Nerevar]

pretty sure that spell is on the list of nerfs already. but it wont be a top priority nerf. as its not broken by default.

[cklambo]

Ok

[The Mentally Untouchable]

i mean elden stars is the counter spell to that, if you are running a faith build you can bloodhound step and use elden stars to seperate them and i am currently using double antspur rapier with seppuku, and when they always expect me to run away, i go inside them with bloodhound and just two right click combo makes bleed and does insane damage, it will kill the sorcerers everytime, so there are ways to play against it but you are right about that playing 3vs1 is insanely hard in this game

[urabe mikoto]

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Ash+of+War:+Carian+Retaliation

[Climhazzard]

Why would it need to get nerfed? In a 1v1 it rarely does more than a bit of chip damage against a good player. You can roll into it at midrange to approach the caster, or run away at long range to get out of it's range altogether.

I suppose I wouldn't mind if they reverted the FP cost buff, but then it would be useless for PvE, and people could still use the FP flask to make your life miserable. Many might also just switch to star shower, or collapsing stars since it's hard to dodge.

And in a 3v1 life is supposed to be hard, deal with it.

[Xengre]

If you have it try:
Eternal Darkness
Effect - Creates a dark space that draws in spells

Lower FP cost than Stars of Ruin. Alternative, try using buffs like Barrier of Gold (effect - Greatly increases magic damage negation by 60% for self & allies for 70 seconds)

[Charles Vane]

Publicado originalmente por urabe mikoto:

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Ash+of+War:+Carian+Retaliation

my carian retalliation only deals 400 dmg to enemies, its not worth it i parry 2 balls another 8 hits me

[Charles Vane]

Publicado originalmente por Xengre:

If you have it try:
Eternal Darkness
Effect - Creates a dark space that draws in spells

Lower FP cost than Stars of Ruin. Alternative, try using buffs like Barrier of Gold (effect - Greatly increases magic damage negation by 60% for self & allies for 70 seconds)

where do you get that gold spell im still in altus plateu

[Moe]

instead of nerfing everything how about just get better?? this game is meant to be difficult. not holding your hand...

[brownie689]

Publicado originalmente por Sparhawk 56:

Why dont they just nerf everything then players like you will then cray about that

this^^^^ stop crying for nerfs. PVP is not a main aspect of this game and should NOT be balanced around it. Game is and always will be balanced around PVE because that's what these games are all about.

[Charles Vane]

Publicado originalmente por Moe:

instead of nerfing everything how about just get better?? this game is meant to be difficult. not holding your hand...

wow a wise advice from a guy who has 102 hours well my dude 400 hours alone i spent doing pvp in elden ring and you are suggesting me get better, very good advice

[Arqwart]

Publicado originalmente por Charles Vane:

Publicado originalmente por Xengre:

If you have it try:
Eternal Darkness
Effect - Creates a dark space that draws in spells

Lower FP cost than Stars of Ruin. Alternative, try using buffs like Barrier of Gold (effect - Greatly increases magic damage negation by 60% for self & allies for 70 seconds)

where do you get that gold spell im still in altus plateu

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Barrier+of+Gold

[Xengre]

Publicado originalmente por Charles Vane:

Publicado originalmente por Xengre:

If you have it try:
Eternal Darkness
Effect - Creates a dark space that draws in spells

Lower FP cost than Stars of Ruin. Alternative, try using buffs like Barrier of Gold (effect - Greatly increases magic damage negation by 60% for self & allies for 70 seconds)

where do you get that gold spell im still in altus plateu

Ah in the meantime until you can get to where this is as Arqwart posted you can use Magic Fortification. It isn't quite as strong and only works on you (which as an invader is usually non-issue #lonelylife lol) but still very potent none the less and low stat requirements of 10 Faith. Reduces magic damage taken by 35% for 70 seconds.
Sold by Brother Corhyn at the Roundtable Hold for 3,500

Note it will NOT stack with the crafted consumable item "spellproof dried liver" that boosts magic defense.

You can also consider these as well:

Opaline Hardtear (description is wrong, it is not all dmg, just all elementas and no physical negation). Stacks with the others. Lasts 3 mins iirc?

Spelldrake Talisman +0~2
Pve/pvp values respectively:
1 dragon = 13%/4%
2 dragons = 17%/5%
3 dragons = 20%/6%

Pearldrake Talisman +0~2
Pve/pvp values respectively:
1 dragon = 5%/2%
2 dragons = 7%/3%
3 dragons = 9%/4%

A warning about dmg negation talismans, and this rule applies to some others possibly as well, is that their value in stats screen is for PvE. For clarification they get nerfed in PvP Dmg calculations as you can see above. The stats screen cannot reflect this but dmg numbers will be influenced. This does not mean you shouldn't use them but keep in mind their reduced effectiveness. If you have spare talisman slots or absolutely want to hard counter something as much as possible they can be considered, ideally the +2 versions if possible... It all adds up and makes a difference. You can use both talisman by the way (Pearldrake has no limitation being stacked with the others).

[Pyro Penguin]

Publicado originalmente por Charles Vane:

Publicado originalmente por Moe:

instead of nerfing everything how about just get better?? this game is meant to be difficult. not holding your hand...

wow a wise advice from a guy who has 102 hours well my dude 400 hours alone i spent doing pvp in elden ring and you are suggesting me get better, very good advice

400 hours of being bad doesnt count for much