ELDEN RING

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Crimzarkin 6 ABR 2022 a las 6:37
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Bloodborne is better than Elden Ring
Deeper Lore

Much better npc quest lines

Bosses were fun to fight and felt satisfactory

Best Story and emotions compared to every souls, Sekiro and Elden Ring.

This might be a bit biased but I liked the dark cosmic horror theme much better

Atmosphere building is way better and so is level design

Almost everything in Bloodborne (from the attire of enemies to the way the boss talks and moves has lore). I found Elden Ring quite lacking in this aspect as it fails to explain a lot of the stuff that happens in the game giving it the excuse of a veil of "fantasy".

This is subjective, but I found the combat in Bloodborne to be far superior albeit Elden Ring has much more variety.

Elden Ring kinda felt like a re skin of Demon souls and Darksouls combined which left a sour taste in my mouth, as Bloodborne was super unique and i was expecting the same from Elden Ring. Elden Ring and darksouls even have the same weapons like cestus etc.

Ost in Elden Ring is the weakest point in the game which i found quite surprising as their previous games osts specially Bloodborne and Darksouls 3 were mind blowing.

PvP, i don't even have to elaborate.

Performance issues (I use a rtx 3060, i7 11 gen and get massive stutters)

Game is a master piece but it fails in areas that I would consider crucial for any new soulsborne ip (Copy pasted weapons, assets, repeated bosses, npc quest lines ending in a weird manner, lack of a unique atmosphere etc).

What do you guys think?

Edit: i also wanted to add another thing, Elden Ring is MUCH bigger than Bloodborne yet most of its areas are filled with very similar activities which negates the point of it being bigger than Bloodborne. Problem is since BB was much smaller going ng+ or thinking about replaying the game did not feel like a chore. Elden Ring on the other hand would take around 30 hours if you only do main bosses and some side stuff (I have tested it), which personally is quite demotivating.

Edit 2: A lot of people commenting here and stating reasons why my points are wrong clearly haven't played BB judging by their points. (some one said Bloodborne's lore is old english XD). Please stop saying stuff out of your but and play the game if you wanna disprove my points. The least you could do is watch Vatividyas lore videos of Bloodborne some of them being almost an hour long to know why Bloodborne's lore and story triumph over other soulsborne/ER/ Sekiro. Not to mention ER kindo lost its soulsborne touch (No unique theme, most of it is stuff imported as an amalgamation of their prev games. The open world literally ripped apart the world building formula of soulsborne, npc quests feel very unfinished etc)
Última edición por Crimzarkin; 11 MAY 2022 a las 10:56
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Wolf 27 ABR 2022 a las 15:32 
Yeah I do agree, the soundtracks of the game wasn't as good. Maybe because of how many copied bosses are in the game that listening to the same track gets repetitive as well. However, the soundtracks of the unique bosses were amazing, at least the ones that impacted me were Radagon, Malenia, Mogh. About the weapons I do agree, same stuff from dark souls with some other new ones added. Elden Ring is a good game, but definitely doesn't have a well made combat sytstem than Bloodborne. I guess what made Elden Ring enjoyable was the well made open world and a new feature, riding a horse. Lore wise... Well shares similarities with dark souls so it's supposed to be the continuation of Dark souls 3.
Última edición por Wolf; 27 ABR 2022 a las 15:32
Markierer 27 ABR 2022 a las 15:42 
Bloodborne is a masterpiece like all fromsoft games but you get fooled by retromania. The music is S+, multiplier and pvp are really bad, bosses and mobs (except brainsuckers) are easy and have no variety (beasts and humans). The world design and its consistency reminds me of DS2: The areas are sometimes too different and do not fit together (middle ages castles and then bc1800 cities and guns). You like it more than Elden Ring? That's fine.

For me Elden Ring is hard to top. It looks like a medley of all the work (souls, bb, sekiro) they ever did.
Morton Koopa Jr. 27 ABR 2022 a las 15:44 
Publicado originalmente por Markierer:
Bloodborne is a masterpiece like all fromsoft games but you get fooled by retromania. The music is S+, multiplier and pvp are really bad, bosses and mobs (except brainsuckers) are easy and have no variety (beasts and humans). The world design and its consistency reminds me of DS2: The areas are sometimes too different and do not fit together (middle ages castles and then bc1800 cities and guns). You like it more than Elden Ring? That's fine.

For me Elden Ring is hard to top. It looks like a medley of all the work (souls, bb, sekiro) they ever did.

People are fueled by retromania because they like bloodborne more than elden ring?
Crimzarkin 27 ABR 2022 a las 15:50 
Publicado originalmente por Henswi:
"Deeper Lore".

After reading your first line, I just stopped reading your post. Try again once u finish the game and watch Vaaty's video explaining ER lore.
I did. Bloodborne's lore is the most detailed lore of fromsoft games. You are prolly seething cuz you never got to play bloodborne, learn to accept opinions.
Crimzarkin 27 ABR 2022 a las 15:50 
Publicado originalmente por Rilgar55:
Publicado originalmente por Deviant:
elden ring is meant for more casul playerbase while bloodborne for more hardcore and since there are more casul players than hardcore they simply made a game for casuls and look at their success sold over 12 milion copies more than all other souls series combined its a shame really they didnt stick to their roots but they want money over hardcore players cuz if they stick to their roots and made it for hardcore playerbase they would sell at best 2 milion copies
Lol, not even close. Elden ring is way harder IF you want it to be, but it also gives you 200 ways of cheesing every boss making them irrelevant if you wish to.
Similar to sekiro.
Crimzarkin 27 ABR 2022 a las 15:51 
Publicado originalmente por Partoutatix:
BB certainly more fun than this DS3.5 with wider areas and a horse.

The only noticeable flaws in BB:
- Framerate, it's sub 30fps and jittery when the combat speed was really designed with a smooth 60fps in mind.
- A lot of aliasing.
- The same narrow character level and location-based coop/pvp matchmaking that all souls games suffer from that lead to you eventually waiting around for minutes on end to be summoned/invade (or having to give up altogether). There is no legitimate justification for these games not scaling you to the host's level and not allowing you to immediately connect to any available host at any level in any (previously visited) location.
- The randomly generated chalice dungeons sucked, they felt more like fight rooms than the randomized sen's fortress they should have been. Would have been fine to ignore them if they hadn't placed upgrade items that gave you a huge edge in pvp in those dungeons (after a lot of grinding). Grinding really has no place in these games.
Tbf the chalice dungeons were kinda fun and added that horror factor thanks to their enigmatic nature.
Crimzarkin 27 ABR 2022 a las 15:51 
Publicado originalmente por Mega:
I didn't play bloodborne because it's exclusive.
so this already makes me like elden ring more :lunar2019piginablanket:
Never knew we had bigots in this community.
Crimzarkin 27 ABR 2022 a las 15:52 
Publicado originalmente por 樹皮:
Ah yes Bloodborne, the game with like 10 weapons if you didn't have the dlc, very little support for any build that isn't melee, poorly made chalice dungeons, an obtuse multiplayer system, LAURENCE, MICOLASH, and barely even 5 npc questlines total, most of which don't amount to much.

I love Bloodborne too, it was my favorite souls game before Elden Ring came out, but it has a lot of problems. So does Elden Ring, but what it does better than the other souls games, it just does so much better that it can't be ignored. Can't we just agree that neither is a total masterpiece and move on?
If you fail to see Bloodborne as a master piece despite it being a system seller then you need help my friend.

Edit: You either never played the game or rushed through it XD.
Última edición por Crimzarkin; 27 ABR 2022 a las 15:53
Crimzarkin 27 ABR 2022 a las 16:01 
Publicado originalmente por BananaGore:
Everyone has different tastes. For me, Bloodborne was better than Dark Souls 3 but compared to Elden Ring it pales in scope.

- the story in Elden Ring has a lot more moving parts & interesting characters, however the story was better told in Bloodborne (it was much more straightforward and easy to follow)

- gameplay wise I think Elden Ring has way more customization and build variety

- both games nailed their atmosphere however Elden Ring is quite a step up in terms of visuals

- world building I'd say Elden Ring wins big time because of the huge environment & story bits scattered around. Bloodborne was just a slice of the world ... but there's just way more going on in Elden Ring

- bosses is a tough one as I felt Bloodborne had some really stong and fun boss fights, but I think Elden Ring has some of the best fights I've had the pleasure of beating. There are about 3-4 boss fights that are memorable from BB, but here every shardbearer was really fun to fight. To me, Elden Ring wins this round by the diversity & cool mechanics they've thrown in here. BB was a much more straight forward affair where bosses were very fast but there were few who really went the extra mile to make things memorable.

While I do understand the love for Bloodborne, to me Elden Ring feels like the best From Software has managed to put out and feels like such a step up compared to their past games I am happy I was able to experience it.

-Bloodbornes npcs, bosses and characters are way more memorable than those in Elden Ring. Reason being, how in depth their lore is, unlike Elden Ring.

-Yet Bloodbornes combat felt way more satisfying than the cheesy combat in Elden Ring.

-Pretty sure Bloodborne and DS3 and Elden Ring have similar visuals also are your eyes unable to notice the lack of proper shadows and lighting in Elden Ring?

-DS1 and Bloodborne have the best level design in all of fromsofts games and from my analysis, most of the community agrees. Level design in Elden Ring was almost non existent thanks to it being an open world, so idk what the hell you are on about XD.

-Elden Ring boss fights are a joke. They are akin to DS2 and some bad DS1 boss fights. The best bosses are in Sekiro and Bloodborne as beating them sends you in a state of euphoria as you relied mostly on skill and strategy, not some busted ash of war or dodge then r1 spam/r2 jump spam strat. Again, I would recommend you to thoroughly analyse why all your points are invalid.

PS: The lighting in DS3 and BB was much better than in Elden Ring, i don't care about graphics much though as I am not bigoted.
Crimzarkin 27 ABR 2022 a las 16:01 
Publicado originalmente por Bring3rOfGain495:
Out of all fromsoft games, I take Armored Core 4 Answer anyday over soulsborne games.
good for you
Crimzarkin 27 ABR 2022 a las 16:03 
Publicado originalmente por Wolf:
Yeah I do agree, the soundtracks of the game wasn't as good. Maybe because of how many copied bosses are in the game that listening to the same track gets repetitive as well. However, the soundtracks of the unique bosses were amazing, at least the ones that impacted me were Radagon, Malenia, Mogh. About the weapons I do agree, same stuff from dark souls with some other new ones added. Elden Ring is a good game, but definitely doesn't have a well made combat sytstem than Bloodborne. I guess what made Elden Ring enjoyable was the well made open world and a new feature, riding a horse. Lore wise... Well shares similarities with dark souls so it's supposed to be the continuation of Dark souls 3.
Bloodbornes ost and DS3 osts blow all ER osts, except maybe Radagon and Elden Beasts ost (which btw are literal variations of ER's general themes).
Crimzarkin 27 ABR 2022 a las 16:04 
Publicado originalmente por Markierer:
Bloodborne is a masterpiece like all fromsoft games but you get fooled by retromania. The music is S+, multiplier and pvp are really bad, bosses and mobs (except brainsuckers) are easy and have no variety (beasts and humans). The world design and its consistency reminds me of DS2: The areas are sometimes too different and do not fit together (middle ages castles and then bc1800 cities and guns). You like it more than Elden Ring? That's fine.

For me Elden Ring is hard to top. It looks like a medley of all the work (souls, bb, sekiro) they ever did.
That is not bloodborne buddy idk wth you just played XD.
Rilgar55 27 ABR 2022 a las 16:12 
Publicado originalmente por Shadow Sovereign:
Publicado originalmente por Rilgar55:
Lol, not even close. Elden ring is way harder IF you want it to be, but it also gives you 200 ways of cheesing every boss making them irrelevant if you wish to.
Similar to sekiro.
Is sekiro really taht cheeseable?
5 Star Man 27 ABR 2022 a las 16:15 
You sound like this OP "Ackchyually"
BralphieDude420 27 ABR 2022 a las 16:16 
Bloodborne is trash fact
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