What will be brought by Fia's ending?

[MingQWERTY]

Right now, I understand most of the endings in Elden Ring except for The Age of Duskborn. All I know is that it will make the undead normal in the Lands Between.

But what does that really mean for the bigger picture? Is it good or bad or mixed as usual?

[NeonRed]

Potentially really bad; reincarnation is a thing in this universe but with the erdtree burned I dunno if it works anymore, not super clear. Undeath becomes part of the cycle of life, but its not new life and will probably lead to stagnation of some kind (the dark souls ending).

The implications are kinda goofy and I really hate how lazy most of the endings actually are in detail and execution (few sentences that explain nothing, chair, fade to black).

[NisseDood]

Początkowo opublikowane przez NeonRed:

Potentially really bad; reincarnation is a thing in this universe but with the erdtree burned I dunno if it works anymore, not super clear. Undeath becomes part of the cycle of life, but its not new life and will probably lead to stagnation of some kind (the dark souls ending).

The implications are kinda goofy and I really hate how lazy most of the endings actually are in detail and execution (few sentences that explain nothing, chair, fade to black).

Well thats the typical ds ending style.

[Ashtrails]

Far as I've understood it, Life in Death is now part of the Order, so undead won't be anathema to the Golden Order anymore (i.e. take increased damage from their spells or die permanently in one cast) and fundamentally, there's no more reason they 'feel' wrong and hate the living or vice versa.
At least that seems to be Fia's ideal form of that, we don't get an epilogue what is actually happening or anything : D

I guess from her perspective, it's good, because the dead mostly seem to just want to be left alone and are at a significant disadvantage in the current Order.
But you also just reshape cosmic rules because you think it's okay without knowing much about this relatively new phenomenon, or what it does to the current cosmic rules exactly, so there's that.

[NisseDood]

All endings got their positives and negatives except dungeater.
Even perfect order you could say they become like wh40k space marines and yell heresy at everything different and keep order that way.

[rasabt]

i always thought Fia's ending would kinda lead to the Dark Souls 1 beginning
and
the rest of Dark Souls 1 to 3 plot-line: an age of stagnation, slowly fading away into dust.
atleats that was my understanding of the consequences.

but to be frank the topic of sleep and slumber seems to player a major role concerning the whole overarching plotline, not just Fia's....so maybe it's dreams?

[MingQWERTY]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ashtrails:

Far as I've understood it, Life in Death is now part of the Order, so undead won't be anathema to the Golden Order anymore (i.e. take increased damage from their spells or die permanently in one cast) and fundamentally, there's no more reason they 'feel' wrong and hate the living or vice versa.
At least that seems to be Fia's ideal form of that, we don't get an epilogue what is actually happening or anything : D

I guess from her perspective, it's good, because the dead mostly seem to just want to be left alone and are at a significant disadvantage in the current Order.
But you also just reshape cosmic rules because you think it's okay without knowing much about this relatively new phenomenon, or what it does to the current cosmic rules exactly, so there's that.

Doesn't the Erdtree store the life of people who die and thus granting the Greater Will more power? By making the undead a normal thing you are basically cutting off the supply of souls to the outer gods right?

[Ashtrails]

Początkowo opublikowane przez MarkQWERTY:

Doesn't the Erdtree store the life of people who die and thus granting the Greater Will more power? By making the undead a normal thing you are basically cutting off the supply of souls to the outer gods right?

Honestly, I don't know. Since the cosmic order gets reshaped, anything could be possible.

Maybe part of that new deal is that by feeding the new dead god Godwyn, the horrors beyond now also get their share from the living dead folks not by returning, but by simply existing.

While the Erdtree still gets its share from regular people, since not everyone who dies would be Living in Death - which was the case right now as well:
there _were_ dead people who couldn't return to the Erdtree and though somewhat diminished, it was still kicking.
Now, with a new Elden Lord, and Order restored, the Greater Will is stronger again, and only has to spare a small portion of the, uh... Soul Wealth.
Fia basically, maybe, just did some Undead civil rights / union contract stuff ; )?

[SadPlatty©]

Początkowo opublikowane przez rasabt:

i always thought Fia's ending would kinda lead to the Dark Souls 1 beginning
and
the rest of Dark Souls 1 to 3 plot-line: an age of stagnation, slowly fading away into dust.
atleats that was my understanding of the consequences.

but to be frank the topic of sleep and slumber seems to player a major role concerning the whole overarching plotline, not just Fia's....so maybe it's dreams?

Either that - or I am of the mind that the Dungeater or Frenzied Flame ending is what leads into DS1 (or at least 2). Both games have sorta described the general populous as cursed undead who have gone hollow or whatever, and in DS2, you are "Bearer of the Curse" as you have a cursemark.

Since Dungeater is trying to curse all souls, then I feel like that sealed in the undying curse. Thus I almost wonder if the "Rekindle vs Extinguish" decisions are you rekindling hope that the burning embers of the Erdtree will spurn fourth once more or you accepting the curse and just letting things come to an end.

Though at the same time - I feel like it could be more logical that the Frenzied Flame ending is what leads into DS1-3 (As then the flame is quite literally the new Erdtree in those games ironically enough, and Witches of Izalith even spawned forth the Chaos from it).

Edit : though with DS3 being the end of that series, I wonder if anything could be collected from the wacky eclipse sky-box. It sorta looks like Mohg's Rune, but the iris portion seeped out.