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alone the fact that they have completely different motivations and goals should give it away
What I wonder is why she seems to go against you during the Rennala fight then doesn't seem to care or remember it happening.
Could be possible they're a split like Marika and Radagon? Same being, but different personalities and goals?
t the same person.
1. Ranni "made" Melina, kinda how Flynn made CLU 2.0 in Tron Legacy. It'd explain the weird similarity between them and such, and how they both basically wind up manipulating you (or try to) to achieve their own ends, and also get frustrated when you don't do things their way.
2. Ranni and Melina are basically the same "thing" happening that Malenia and Milicent have going on. If you do Milicent's questline, she's basically like a "reincarnation" of Malenia, despite Malenia not actually being dead or anything. Does Waterfowl Dance when you fight her, has ties to and is afflicted by the Rot, missing the same arm, and Milicent gains odd memories and follows the same path Malenia took however long before after getting a needle jabbed in her. Maybe something happened with Ranni and Melina though, resulting in Melina having little to no idea where she came from, but knows a lot about the world and what her primary mission is. In Milicent's quest, Milicent removed the needle herself after seeing she was losing herself and becoming someone else - maybe Ranni saw that was happening to her "kid" and went "welp, I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up, lemme try to fix this" and that was the result. Or maybe Ranni did all that on purpose just to have a pawn in play to point a tarnished with promise towards her, and thus Melina is nothing more than a puppet given a fake life to help her do her job.
Who knows, maybe some DLC will come out at some point to go into this further.
there seems to be a connection, they had the same mother/father which is marika/radagon. We know empyreans can only be birthed by a god, aka marika/radagon. (marika is radagon, we also see marika turn into radagon in the final boss scene)
So it's possible ranni/melina are the same person who had some kind of a split upon ranni's death.
Ranni was the one who originally stole a part of the rune of death from Maliketh to kill herself. So.. eh..
Yeah, that makes sense. I definitely think Ranni/Melina are connected
Either Melina is a clone or reincarnation or sibling of Ranni or they are the same person that underwent a split upon the death rune's use, since she was an empyrean, the part of her that wanted to rebel took control of a puppet that looked like her mentor and become ranni, and the part of her that wanted to please marika became melina.
But also the death rune has a confusing history and makes this theory so much more confusing because I'm not sure how it works and it has it's own story. For example melina can be the gloam eyed queen because the gloam eyed queen was in control of the death rune and was eventually burned and became bodiless upon marika's order to her shadow malekith
https://www.learnreligions.com/the-great-work-or-magnum-opus-95943
https://www.learnreligions.com/rebis-from-theoria-philosophiae-hermeticae-95751
Yes, there is deep relation between Melina and Ranni. But you'll never find "physical" definitive explanation. Is she one person in two or whatever, etc. You'll never know and it's not important. Even the "Radagon is Marika" thing is just that, a concept. But at what extent "Radagon is Marika" is infinitely open to all kinds of interpretations.
If you 'make' a demigod out of only one god parent, the child is essentially a 1:1 copy. A modern word for that would be 'clone'. This can be seen by all the children in Rennala's room having her face although they are technically still children - she makes them with the help of her Great Rune, but out of only her genetic information.
In the same vein I think that Millicent's 'sisters' you get to meet during her questline and Millicent herself are clones of Marika/Radagon - or, more realistically, clones of Malenia who herself is a clone of Marika. So are the other children of Radagon and Marika.
So Melina and Ranni are not literally the same being, but they are figuratively the same being as both are clones of Marika ( well, of Malenia, but it's the same 'DNA', so to speak ) - as cloning is the only way you can make a child out of the genetic information of only one parent.
And as there can be only one 'god' ( = ruler of the Lands Between with the Elden Ring inside ), all of their clones automatically become demigods - I thought that was more of a rank name than a power-level thing. Like one general, multiple majors, and there can always be only one general.
In this scenario and with the translation we got ingame, 'Empyrean' would come down to mean 'clone'. This would also mean that Radahn, for example, is a copy of Radagon ( ingame items comment on their similiar looks, yet never call him empyrean - so possible mistake in the theory? ), but changed physically due to the whole cannibalism and rot thing.
And I think that it would also mean that Malenia and Radahn, who fought forever and ever, are clones of each other ( as they are then both clones of Radrika ), just that one is cloned from the Marika aspect of Marika, the other is made from the Radagon aspect. But this needs further study and thinking to really put together congruently.