40 vigor good at level 74?

[drakeef]

Want to work on stats like mind, strength and faith, but know a lot of builds usually have 50 or 60 vigor, so not sure if i should keep going to the final soft cap or work on other stats for a bit.

[drakeef]

DARKXXXXT eredeti hozzászólása:

I use to use the banished knight alot until end game then I switched , but your right that jellyfish good with poison but not good for every match

Switched to the two undead spear users and the katana the samurai starts with (I started as a confessor but found it in a dungeon) which I got +7 and put an ash of war that gave golden vow (was using that faith scythe at +4) they lasted long enough to kill one knight and rushed the last one before scarlet rot did too much damage.

Wanted them dead for the golden scarab because I have been farming the mobs around the beast sanctum for runes and wanted that bonus 20%. Aiming for a strength/faith build, so that boost will help.

I really need to find some buff spells, lol!

[Rivaldman]

If you consistently buff damage negation, it should be ok. But as I don't bother to do it, I boost my vigor and put up the best armor.

[Artorias]

Depends upon you. I didnt level vigor until 100 but kept getting one shot so I started investing in it. Makes the game much easier. I'd say balance it with equip load as you level

[drakeef]

Artorias eredeti hozzászólása:

Depends upon you. I didnt level vigor until 100 but kept getting one shot so I started investing in it. Makes the game much easier. I'd say balance it with equip load as you level

Guessing this where a lot of Souls players have it a little easier? Still trying to find the balance in this type of game, as I only tried DS1 once and did not leave the starting area (years ago) so working what gear to use plus getting better as the defensive tactics over spamming roll in a panic.

Does not help the armor I'm using uses a lot of my load weight (banished knight chest and feet, with D's gloves and helmet) since i was hoping that that would help soften some of the hits. I use two talismans to boost load-out weight (one pure boost while other also boosts hp and stamina) and the third slot I keep trying various other things.

[Artorias]

The dodging in this game feels off since the roll button only picks up on release. I've worked around it by using more of a shield and counter play style.

I tend to work on physical stats like vigor, endurance, and an attack stat like str or dex first. Once those have solid numbers and I've got a weapon moveset I like, then I'll branch out into other stats.

If you like shields, then find one with close to 100% physical block. Also remember you can upgrade shields to increase their guard boost. That means less stamina loss when you block. You can trade out armor pieces as you level to keep at least a medium load out / roll.

If you get really good you can go around naked and parry everything but that takes tons of practice and no mistakes. If you ever get to NG+7 then you'll realize that vigor becomes a less valuable stat with every playthrough since way more stuff can one shot you.

[IrtheWalrus]

60 vigor is MINIMUM after lvl100.

[Flo]

Lol, I'm in NG++ with 40 VIG and nothing can oneshot me (except that damn Astrel grab). I have heavy armor and dragoncrest greatshield talisman (like everyone always should, anyway).

[Spooky]

hvy vs cloth ;)

[Seven ate you]

I typically get to 60 vig really early on and then move on to my next stat without any soreseals, outside of minimum requirements to use certain things.
Vig is really the stat that makes the game way easier compared to other stats, unless you're trying to be a spell caster or something.

[GosuCab]

if you are not worried about pvp and mainly play PvE do what you feel like. I personally just aim for 40. Its a softcap, and when you reach it there isn't really anything that will oneshot you. usually most thing 3 shot you so quite comfy.

[drakeef]

Seven ate you eredeti hozzászólása:

I typically get to 60 vig really early on and then move on to my next stat without any soreseals, outside of minimum requirements to use certain things.
Vig is really the stat that makes the game way easier compared to other stats, unless you're trying to be a spell caster or something.

Hybrid plan so that is what is making it hard, since I want use incantations and melee.

[[Lethalvriend]]

I'd say the primary reason to level other stats are:

Your weapon upgrade is high, so you benefit more from scaling
You need more stats to use an item or spell
You feel like you aren't dying quickly

The thing with Vigor vs other stats (especially early on) is that the majority of your damage comes from weapon upgrades untill your weapon starts to hit higher upgrade levels. It actually makes the game far easier early on if you go vigor before other stats. But 40 at this point should be fine. If I were you I'd just slowly put a point in vigor every other level or something up to max 60. Late game 60 vigor + greatshield talisman will mean you won't suffer all the complaining you read here on the forums. With those stats you will rarely if ever get 1 or 2 shot.

[Seven ate you]

drakeef eredeti hozzászólása:

Seven ate you eredeti hozzászólása:

I typically get to 60 vig really early on and then move on to my next stat without any soreseals, outside of minimum requirements to use certain things.
Vig is really the stat that makes the game way easier compared to other stats, unless you're trying to be a spell caster or something.

Hybrid plan so that is what is making it hard, since I want use incantations and melee.

Only thing that really helps early game for that would be mind.
Any heavy reliance in spell casting wants a lot of mind.
So if you aren't really using the faith points to heal or kill with spells and rather just use buffs, you can just do what I do and have 15 faith to cast a weapon buff and what ever defensive buff I want and pump everything else in HP.

[tranquillant]

drakeef eredeti hozzászólása:

Want to work on stats like mind, strength and faith, but know a lot of builds usually have 50 or 60 vigor, so not sure if i should keep going to the final soft cap or work on other stats for a bit.

I have 30 Vigor on RL109 and it works for me just fine.

It all depends on build and playstyle and gear to compliment your stats.

[MULTIPASS]

What I usually do is raise vigor to 30, and then raise my main scaling stat to 30. Then I raise both towards 40, which usually happens around the end of the capital.