Weapon stats question

[nub]

So I have a claymore and I was wondering does its stats go upto STR/DEX B/C? If it does, which great sword go up higher than B/C?

[impuretrash2878]

seems they're all about the same. One might have higher str scaling than the claymore but then its dex is lower.

[Flo]

Claymore+25 has C/D in STR/DEX
Sword of Milos C/C
Death's Poker C/B
Blasphemous Blade C/C

All the other greatswords have only one good stat or use INT or FTH.

But with a Quality affinity, literally EVERY greatsword gets a B/B.

Bastard Sword
Claymore
Iron Greatsword
Lordsworn's Greatsword
Knight's Greatsword
Banished Knight's Greatsword
Forked Greatsword
Flamberge
Gargoyle's Greatsword

All B/B

[Henswi]

Not every B, C or whatever character scales the same. Each character represents a range.

[nub]

Originally posted by Flo:

Claymore+25 has C/D in STR/DEX
Sword of Milos C/C
Death's Poker C/B
Blasphemous Blade C/C

All the other greatswords have only one good stat or use INT or FTH.

But with a Quality affinity, literally EVERY greatsword gets a B/B.

Bastard Sword
Claymore
Iron Greatsword
Lordsworn's Greatsword
Knight's Greatsword
Banished Knight's Greatsword
Forked Greatsword
Flamberge
Gargoyle's Greatsword

All B/B

What is quality affinity? Which one should I use for claymore, and how to you find it?

[Flo]

Originally posted by nub:

What is quality affinity?

Affinity is the thing you select after you put an Ash of War on a weapon. Heavy, Keen, Quality, Fire, Holy, Bleed etc. It changes the stats of a weapon to suit your build better.
For exemple, a weapon with the "Heavy" affinity increases the STR scaling, and removes all the others.

A "Quality" weapon balances the STR and DEX scalings and reduces the others.
So if you have, say, 30 STR and 30 DEX, a Quality weapon with B/B will increase your damage more than if your weapon was "Heavy" with an S in STR but nothing in DEX.

To apply an affinity to a weapon, you need to equip an Ash of War of the same affinity (each Ash has an affinity assigned to it, for exemple "Square Off" is a Quality Ash of War).
OR (and this what you want), you need to loot a special Whetblade that will give you the option to put any affinity on any Ash of War.
The whetblade that unlocks the Quality affinity (also Heavy and Keen) is located in Stormveil Castle, maybe you already have it.

Here a more detailed explanation on affinities :
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Affinities

And a list of all the whetblades :
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Whetblades

[nub]

I wanna do quality, but it decreases the base damage. Is it still worth it to do quality? Meaning does my damage still increase.

[impuretrash2878]

Originally posted by nub:

I wanna do quality, but it decreases the base damage. Is it still worth it to do quality? Meaning does my damage still increase.

Heavy claymore with 80 str gives 222 AR.

Quality claymore with 40/40 str and dex gives 191 AR.

with 80/80 str and dex quality claymore get 236 AR.

So yeah, quality kinda sucks.

[Flo]

Weapons have two damage stats, it looks something like 150+200.
The 150 is the weapon's base damage. The 200 is how much extra damage you add with your own stats.

So for exemple, say a standard weapon has 150+200 (no affitiny). When you apply the Quality affinity, it might become 100+300.
The base damage will be reduced to 100, but if you have a lot of STR and DEX, the extra damage will go up to 300. You gain 50 damage in the end.

You need to try for yourself, go to a grace, apply and Ash of War and the Quality affinity, and simply compare if you gain or lose total damage.

[trembo]

I've found that in Elden Ring going STR 60 DEX 20 with a Heavy Claymore +25 gives me a bit more damage than a Quality Claymore +25 with 40/40 stats. I do lose a little off the bows, but I'm using the Claymore in 90% of engagements so I'd rather have the extra damage on my melee.

[nub]

Originally posted by impuretrash2878:

Originally posted by nub:

I wanna do quality, but it decreases the base damage. Is it still worth it to do quality? Meaning does my damage still increase.

Heavy claymore with 80 str gives 222 AR.

Quality claymore with 40/40 str and dex gives 191 AR.

with 80/80 str and dex quality claymore get 236 AR.

So yeah, quality kinda sucks.

Which affinity do you mean when you say with 80/80? You mean without affinity?

[Flo]

Oh yeah, you were talking about wanting a weapon with STR and DEX in your post, so I just started talking about Quality. But you'll also need to check if going for Heavy (pure STR) or Keen (pure DEX) isn't better for you. You just have to check your damage on the affinity page and pick whatever affinity gives you the most.

Like the guys above said, Quality only gets really good at very high levels of STR/DEX, like 60/60 or more. If you have less than that, you might be better off with other affinities.

[nub]

I use the claymore so which should I increase?

[nub]

I'm 78/26 right now. Or around there.

[impuretrash2878]

Originally posted by nub:

Originally posted by impuretrash2878:

Heavy claymore with 80 str gives 222 AR.

Quality claymore with 40/40 str and dex gives 191 AR.

with 80/80 str and dex quality claymore get 236 AR.

So yeah, quality kinda sucks.

Which affinity do you mean when you say with 80/80? You mean without affinity?

80 points in your characters strength and dexterity stats. 80 is the soft cap beyond which it's basically pointless to level further.

[Flo]

Oh lol, you have super high STR and low DEX. Then you definitely want to use the Heavy affinity. I'm going to check the stats myself right now