Fire Giant Range Cheese

[Sciophyte]

So I managed to jump out of the arena no problem, assumed the position recommended in "that YouTube video," equipped the Arrow's Reach Talisman... and still can't touch the big ape—while he has no problem at all sending me flying with his stupid shield attack.

Was this patched, or am I missing something? This miserable obstacle has me close to concluding that this is as far as I get in ER.

[paulaus333]

Did you follow Alexandar (jar)'s questline at all? He can help in the fight. What about spirit ashes? Got the mimic? Tiche? They can help if you're really struggling and considering cheese.

You could also ask for player help? :)

[Nephew Sam]

bro just use scarlet rot, it melts fire giant

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by paulaus333:

Did you follow Alexandar (jar)'s questline at all? He can help in the fight. What about spirit ashes? Got the mimic? Tiche? They can help if you're really struggling and considering cheese.

You could also ask for player help? :)

the mimic depends on host setup. spirits struggle with the giant especially due to his insane size. a ranged spirit is much better than any melee one on this boss believe it or not.

dont summon jarbro. he will nearly double the bosses already insane hp amount. you dont want to prolong the fight. he has too many moves that can just end you quickly.

the range cheese works. but you need scarlet rot and poisen arrows tc. and you need ALOT of them. your arrows wont do dmg. youre too far away for that. but the statues will still trigger. also works for broken bleed status. it will take awhile and keep in mind once the 2nd phase starts youll get forced back into the arena anyway. and if you then fail the jump out you have to start all over with p1.
and crafting rot arrows is PAINFUL once the butterflies are all looted.

[paulaus333]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

the mimic depends on host setup. spirits struggle with the giant especially due to his insane size. a ranged spirit is much better than any melee one on this boss believe it or not.

dont summon jarbro. he will nearly double the bosses already insane hp amount. you dont want to prolong the fight. he has too many moves that can just end you quickly.

I read that jarbro was a beast and he melted the boss when I summoned him, boosted health or not. :) The giant's health pool is obnoxiously large in any case, such a boring fight!

[Sciophyte]

Yeah, I tried I don't even wanna think about how many times by now, with Tiche, who's one of the best and most aggressive ashes in the game imo, doing ok with Bloodhound Step to avoid his AOE attacks, then getting bleeds on him. But eventually I always get either stomped or burnt.

Once I got him to Phase 2 and burnt him down to an inch of his HP bar with Comet Azure, but the frickin bleeder got me at the last moment. Frustrating. Will try the arrows, I used Loretta's Greatbow but if it's all about the status effects, that's obviously not gonna cut it.

Anyway, thanks for all the tips!

P.S.: Player help is out b/c mods (UW)

[Dr.Abscondus]

Alexander was the only reason I beat the Fire Giant. He was so relentless in attacking the giant up close that he never lost aggro the whole time. This enabled me to come in behind without the boss noticing me and getting a status effect going.

[Sciophyte]

Alexander, huh. Actually didn't run into him again after Radahn. Is he really that helpful?

[Non-Lethal Gamer]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

dont summon jarbro. he will nearly double the bosses already insane hp amount.

he actually is one of the only summon cases in the game where it doesn't buff the boss's HP. since you summon him after you pass the fog wall

For the Original Author, I still wouldn't recommend summoning him if you are having that much trouble or don't care about the quest solely because it locks you out of torrent until he dies.

[Non-Lethal Gamer]

Originally posted by Sciophyte:

Alexander, huh. Actually didn't run into him again after Radahn. Is he really that helpful?

he's a complete coinflip since if the giant rolls a few times he will take forever to catch up to him because of his giant jar NPC walk speed and take mega damage + get staggered while trying. if you manage to beat on his legs with him though, he chunks hard.

if you want to find alexander after radhan:



you can find him in the lower area of Mt.Gelmir. you can only access this area in 2 ways:

1(can be locked-out): you can have patches kick you off the ledge nearthe guard tower and pumpkin head on the way to the grafted scion at Mt. Gelmir. He will kick you down the ravine where you normally can't access. However if you have been to volcano manor in the past, he will then move there and this part of his quest is skipped.

2(permanent): the inquisitor maiden at the bottom of raya lucaria does a bloodborne abduction if you die specifically to its grab attack, which I'm sure is coded to be spammed by this particular one. you can access this one by going to schoolhouse classroom site of grace, walking back out to the rotary mill, going on a platform on the far side, and waiting for the mill to slide you off once it reaches the end. then obviously let yourself get killed via grab but I recommend taking the cat talisman off the ground first.

going in the direction of the ravine, you can go past Fort Laiedd and find a zone where a magma wyrm pops out of the ground. killing this wyrm would make alexander appear in his arena. talk to him and exhaust his dialogue. this will yield you a jar helmet, and he will then move to Farum Azula. You can get to him by spending stonesword keys. after he moves to Farum Azula, he will then garuntee a drop of the upgraded Alexander's Shard Talisman when killed or if you conclude his quest.

[Sciophyte]

I actually don't rely on Torrent in this encounter except if I want to do the cheese jump, so in that regard having Alexander wouldn't be an issue. But seriously, I had hardly any trouble with the so-called bosses before this (some mini-bosses were far harder, like that Godskin apostle!). But the Fire Giant is an annoyance. It's not even a fun fight, just has me feeling like a senior citizen at a Vegas slot machine pulling that handle... "Maybe this time!"

[Sciophyte]

Thanks, Stun Seed... that seems like a lot of work for a summon that may be helpful.

[Lahoo Eckbert]

Don't bother with alexander. Honestly I summoned him once and he made the fight more difficult for me.

[paulaus333]

Originally posted by Sciophyte:

Thanks, Stun Seed... that seems like a lot of work for a summon that may be helpful.

Fair choice. I've used summons / ashes in other fights. Sometimes the boss just wipes the floor with them. At other times, the tables turn and the ashes almost solo the same boss. There's an element of RNG in there, for sure. So, I wouldn't rule something out just because someone said they made ONE attempt and failed. Look at the big picture.

[Kain]

I just cheesed him with Rivers of Blood with Alexander.

[Zoid13]

Originally posted by paulaus333:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

the mimic depends on host setup. spirits struggle with the giant especially due to his insane size. a ranged spirit is much better than any melee one on this boss believe it or not.

dont summon jarbro. he will nearly double the bosses already insane hp amount. you dont want to prolong the fight. he has too many moves that can just end you quickly.

I read that jarbro was a beast and he melted the boss when I summoned him, boosted health or not. :) The giant's health pool is obnoxiously large in any case, such a boring fight!

Jar bro can pretty much solo a phase of him. and because you can summon him INSIDE the arena you can wait for Phase 2 to summon him.