Antspur Rapier + Blood Blade

[Lestrad]

Is it worth switching out the swords ability for blood blade to get

Scarlet Rot Buildup (50)
Blood Loss Buildup (57)

[Dollmaker]

You dont really need Blood Blade for the Blood Loss, you can use any Keen/Heavy/Quality/Bleed/Occult Ash of War and make it Bleed infused.

You need the Black Whetstone for that if i recall.

[Sparhawk 59]

Blood is the most op in all game

[Lestrad]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

You dont really need Blood Blade for the Blood Loss, you can use any Keen/Heavy/Quality/Bleed/Occult Ash of War and make it Bleed infused.

You need the Black Whetstone for that if i recall.

It was more of an example really... the question remains. Would sacrificing a bit of one be worth it to create a weapon that would, potentially, inflict someone with both bleed and rot simultaniously?

Would it even work, and if it did, would the added life drain be significant enough to be worth the investment?

[Sparhawk 59]

Originally posted by Lestrad:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

You dont really need Blood Blade for the Blood Loss, you can use any Keen/Heavy/Quality/Bleed/Occult Ash of War and make it Bleed infused.

You need the Black Whetstone for that if i recall.

It was more of an example really... the question remains. Would sacrificing a bit of one be worth it to create a weapon that would, potentially, inflict someone with both bleed and rot simultaniously?

Sometimes splitting damage is not always the best. What is the stat if full bleed compared to the split stat of the build up of both?
Then you can always try it out and reverse it if needed

[Lestrad]

Its a 5 point difference for Scarlet Rot 55 -> 50 (still high).

Basically, from what I can see is a great cheese weapon if the health drain is great enough. Noting that a re-spec would most certainly be involved to be able to even use the weapon and re-allocate points from my current build designed around a Night and Flame +10.

[Sparhawk 59]

Originally posted by Lestrad:

Its a 5 point difference for Scarlet Rot 55 -> 50 (still high).

Basically, from what I can see is a great cheese weapon if the health drain is great enough. Noting that a re-spec would most certainly be involved to be able to even use the weapon and re-allocate points from my current build designed around a Night and Flame +10.

You can pick up plenty of laval tears to re spec so give it a whirl nothing gained nothing lost to try it out

[Lestrad]

Yeah, I might just do that. I was under the impression Larval Tears were extremely limited from various posts and such.

Still... at 199 on my first playthrough, neither a +10 N&F or a +10 Blasphemous Blade and a +10 Mimic Tear has cut it against... shall we say... a certain old hag's regen ability (I'm starting to think that all those people who insisted that enemies don't scale were full of it). So any possibility of trolling that just a little bit...

[Sparhawk 59]

Think its 18 to get vid on locations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W_Ex-lbxz8

[Lestrad]

The only real drawback that could be a problem is that base damage drops from

98 + 38 to 79 + 33

I guess it just comes down to

How quickly and how much a combined status ailment drains...

[Sparhawk 59]

Best of luck whatever you decide

[Lylliana of Mirrah]

ya better off go for pure arc dex did not add lot of dmg sadly. then just infused it with blood

[Sparhawk 59]

Originally posted by DarkSpirit Leliana:

ya better off go for pure arc dex did not rly lot of dmg sadly. then just infused it with blood

My friend is a pvp whizz and knows his stuff

[Zeni]

just try it bro you can always change it back if you dont like it

[Lylliana of Mirrah]

so, here's the perfect build. you can go pure arc and do the same thing like Dark build from DS3 just add enough str and dex for you to wield most of the weapons. 18 str and 22 dex

for weapon that has good range, pokes, or fast as curved swords you better off add bleed on it. and for slow weapons like halberds and greatswords, just go for occult and with good Ashes of War of course.

having ARC weapons such as Rivers of Blood, Mohgwyn Spear, Bloody Helice in your INV for fast swap is good too. RoB is so useful for fighting 2 man gank who use Melee focus and tend to be more passive aggressive you can hardswap to RoB and Surprise them. they will not see it coming nor even able to react to it essentially it felt like the gundyr hardswap trick in DS3 very effective at surprising your enemy.

for Mohgwyn perfect for greedy Gankers who kept chasing you and when you cast the nihil they'll be on the ground laying dead in just few NIHILS.

and for dual wield antspur rapier i use this to punish Crouch Poker Abusers. i put on quickstep on it essentially this is much more cancerous version of Murky. you can just quickstep around the abuser and just poke him to death with both bleed and rot applies to him. he'll be dead unless he was smart and get away from you.

[Argonaut]

Originally posted by Lestrad:

Is it worth switching out the swords ability for blood blade to get

Scarlet Rot Buildup (50)
Blood Loss Buildup (57)

I have a dual antspur char and you want bleed infusion and preferably seppuku. Without it you don't do enough damage to win trades, even with bleed, and anything with poise is an absolute nightmare for you. You want the higher bleed modifier possible with the scarlet rot just being an additional perk / source of pressure. FYI your direct damage is awful until you have rotten insignia, millicents prosthetics, white mask and exultation all active. I basically made the character to DW the rapiers and it's so underwhelming in PvP I'm considering respeccing out of arcane entirely.