Bosses movesets feel like wasted effort

[DestinedLight]

I mean, the devs spent all that time carefully animating and workingon every single move the bosses have, and half the bosses i've fought will use the same 1-3, the entire fight out of the msybe 12-16 they have, sometimes regardless of distance or anything (commander niall lightning stomp comes to mind, he just stomped for 2-3 minutes before changing to actually do something else in the moveset.

[Montjoie Saint Denis ⚜]

reskin+input reading+AoE+Delayed attack+stup1d Duos = bad gamedesign, but GOTY.

[Sparhawk 59]

Copy paste so many mobs and bosses

[DestinedLight]

Originally posted by 🐗 UnaOne:

reskin+input reading+AoE+Delayed attack+stup1d Duos = bad gamedesign, but GOTY.

Oh ♥♥♥♥, did you see that, the crucible knight did the funny stab for the 8th time in a row!

[tewi]

Elden Ring is a beautiful disaster really. I think people are only starting to realize it now when they can look at the game objectively without the hype. It absolutely didn’t live up to the standards set by their former games. Creativity void hiding behind a giant repetitive boring open world and endlessly repeated assets, where almost everything actually new to the format feels gimmicky and unbalanced. Boss design is worse than ever, most people really just win by attrition with mimic or whatever because learning these ridiculous anime movesets hardly feels rewarding.

[Dr.Abscondus]

The Elden Beast does all of them randomly. Enjoy.

[Tao314zdin]

Originally posted by DestinedLight:

he just stomped for 2-3 minutes before changing to actually do something else in the moveset.

That happens once in a full-moon though. I just rechecked one fight with NIal that I have record of and he did not repeat any single move 2x in a raw and managed to roll through most of them despite being put down rather fast.

I recall Malenia repeating her multi-hit (not WD) + slash move several times. But that is like once in many dozens times I fought her myself and helped others.

[Anthreris]

Originally posted by Tao314zdin:

Originally posted by DestinedLight:

he just stomped for 2-3 minutes before changing to actually do something else in the moveset.

That happens once in a full-moon though. I just rechecked one fight with NIal that I have record of and he did not repeat any single move 2x in a raw and managed to roll through most of them despite being put down rather fast.

I recall Malenia repeating her multi-hit (not WD) + slash move several times. But that is like once in many dozens times I fought her myself and helped others.

Well then I also must have gotten real unlucky, or lucky in my case. Just fought Nial today and he would always do three frost stops and then the lighting jump stomp which meant I had to dodge like I was fighting Margit. Meanwhile my Mimic was just standing in a corner hammering away at the corner of the arena (it must have been trying to show me one of those buggy hidden walls).

The game can and will spam certain moves, whether or not is intended. Two good examples of this is the Black Knife Assassin grab which seems to be spammed to no end, and the Wolf Riding Albinauric Archer Stunlock (because its perfectly balanced to get combo'd by three arrows which decimate 50 Vigor in Scaled Armor).

[Tao314zdin]

Originally posted by Gman:

Originally posted by Tao314zdin:

That happens once in a full-moon though. I just rechecked one fight with NIal that I have record of and he did not repeat any single move 2x in a raw and managed to roll through most of them despite being put down rather fast.

I recall Malenia repeating her multi-hit (not WD) + slash move several times. But that is like once in many dozens times I fought her myself and helped others.

Well then I also must have gotten real unlucky, or lucky in my case. Just fought Nial today and he would always do three frost stops and then the lighting jump stomp which meant I had to dodge like I was fighting Margit. Meanwhile my Mimic was just standing in a corner hammering away at the corner of the arena (it must have been trying to show me one of those buggy hidden walls).

Well, might be just unlucky indeed. Here is what I have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhXFs6eSaQ0
No spam of anything, used most of the moves I think.

[0wnz0r]

they also wasted it in a sense that u either die immediately in 2 hits, or u buff up infinitely to kill the boss in 2 hits, or u summon to help stunlock it.

[NisseDood]

Niall is the Asylum demon of Elden Ring
You can bait his stomps as easily as you can bait asylum demons ass drop.

[DestinedLight]

Originally posted by Dr.Abscondus:

The Elden Beast does all of them randomly. Enjoy.

beat it already, it just did the whale fly across map half the time, but beyond that was pretty rng

Originally posted by Tao314zdin:

That happens once in a full-moon though. I just rechecked one fight with NIal that I have record of and he did not repeat any single move 2x in a raw and managed to roll through most of them despite being put down rather fast.

Of my maybe 3-4 fights in different worlds/journey's with him, he's always reliably used stomp, only one had him do other attacks and it was his frosty wind charge the first time i fought him, EZ parries when he learns he has a halberd too though

[Wolf]

Originally posted by tewi:

Elden Ring is a beautiful disaster really. I think people are only starting to realize it now when they can look at the game objectively without the hype. It absolutely didn’t live up to the standards set by their former games. Creativity void hiding behind a giant repetitive boring open world and endlessly repeated assets, where almost everything actually new to the format feels gimmicky and unbalanced. Boss design is worse than ever, most people really just win by attrition with mimic or whatever because learning these ridiculous anime movesets hardly feels rewarding.

Agreed. However, still no game has topped Elden Ring and it might get GOTY, for the hype and popularity. It is a good game, but definitely not masterpiece as previous games that FromSoftware made like Bloodborne.

[Nono]

You forgot huge lunge capability.

[DestinedLight]

Originally posted by Wolf:

Originally posted by tewi:

Elden Ring is a beautiful disaster really. I think people are only starting to realize it now when they can look at the game objectively without the hype. It absolutely didn’t live up to the standards set by their former games. Creativity void hiding behind a giant repetitive boring open world and endlessly repeated assets, where almost everything actually new to the format feels gimmicky and unbalanced. Boss design is worse than ever, most people really just win by attrition with mimic or whatever because learning these ridiculous anime movesets hardly feels rewarding.

Agreed. However, still no game has topped Elden Ring and it might get GOTY, for the hype and popularity. It is a good game, but definitely not masterpiece as previous games that FromSoftware made like Bloodborne.

the fact it hasn't been topped shows alot of how easy it is to sell a poor product well to starved gamers... don't get me wrong, elden ring is fun, it's is good, it is far from the quality of GOTY's past...