Colossal Weapons are GARBAGE

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

so first of all; they are too slow, and they don't hit hard enough. buff either aspect.
secondly; all the decent/good ashes of war can't be applied to colossal weapons.

its quite obvious that certain weapon types (lul katanas) have been designed with absurd amount of favoritism, like, i am sitting here in shock over how absolutely awful colossal weapons are by comparison to even average katanas, let alone Hand of Malenia, Rivers of Blood and Moonveil.

Katanas literally have Tekken-style combo ashes of war. the Malenia one in particular swings EIGHT TIMES in quick succession applying all sorts of status effects that deals even more damage and benefit from some of the best talismans in the game, easily doing upwards of 10.000 damage in a single combo, enough to kill a boss in 2-3 successive combos.

meanwhile, if i am lucky i might pull off a 2k hit with ONE ashes of war that has a 5 second cast time on a colossal weapon while the rest of them are total garbage that does no damage, doesn't stun, doesn't apply status effects, and leaves me exposed to counter attacks and even backstabs/crits because the bloody recovery time is about 2 seconds upon combo end, outside of rolling to reset it.

conclusion; don't even experiment with weapons that aren't katanas. its the equivalent of sawing off both your legs before going on a 100 yard dash whereas using a katana will turn that 100 yard dash into a 10 yard dash.

no wonder nobody wants to play strength builds... and the funniest part is that even if you play a strength build, the katanas are still better than the weapons that are literally designed for strength builds.

absolutely atrocious.

[Rivaldman]

Sad that the devs buffed the garbage into another garbage.

[ZAToM]

collossal weapon can stagger well

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

Originally posted by ZAToM:

collossal weapon can stagger well

no, they can't. katanas stagger better as well. its literally only specific types of mob where the occasional use of a colossal weapon might be better, like on stone golems.
for anything else, lul just katana weebo.

[Senki]

Yeah the only way to play with colossal weapons and get a decent result is wield 2 of them and spam jump attack which is not fun at all after a while.

[Yagger]

JeeNiNe videos show him using ultra greatswords with very high efficiency you're really just using them very badly

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

Originally posted by Senki:

Yeah the only way to play with colossal weapons and get a decent result is wield 2 of them and spam jump attack which is not fun at all after a while.

bruh i have sat here for 3 hours trying to make ANY colossal weapon work at even half the efficiency of even the worst katana (which is just the plain Uchigatana) and none of them could reach its bloody sockholders.

[Haruspex]

Aren't people making one shot builds with colossal weapons? Seen like 9k damage with one jump attack.

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

Originally posted by Yagger:

JeeNiNe videos show him using ultra greatswords with very high efficiency you're really just using them very badly

i don't know who that is, and i can say for sure he ain't making them work even half as well as katanas. i don't even need to see video evidence, this is just fact.

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

Originally posted by Pathetic Sort Ahead:

Aren't people making one shot builds with colossal weapons? Seen like 9k damage with one jump attack.

i would love to see that.

[Senki]

Originally posted by Pathetic Sort Ahead:

Aren't people making one shot builds with colossal weapons? Seen like 9k damage with one jump attack.

Those are like ng+ stuff and you need a lot of buffs to do it. The most i've seen in a normal playthrough is 2k dmg per jump attack.

[Bricky strong]

They're still a little too heavy. If they hit harder it would be nice. Up all there scaling 1 up B to A, A to S.

[Yagger]

Originally posted by JaggSauce:

Originally posted by Yagger:

JeeNiNe videos show him using ultra greatswords with very high efficiency you're really just using them very badly

i don't know who that is, and i can say for sure he ain't making them work even half as well as katanas. i don't even need to see video evidence, this is just fact.

he's the single greatest pvper due to his insane adaptability , and as stated above, ultragreatswords when used you know, not stupidly , can easily take down bosses and players.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by JaggSauce:

Originally posted by Pathetic Sort Ahead:

Aren't people making one shot builds with colossal weapons? Seen like 9k damage with one jump attack.

i would love to see that.

You can search it on Youtube.
It's NG+ apparently though.

[Yagger]

Originally posted by Pathetic Sort Ahead:

Originally posted by JaggSauce:

i would love to see that.

You can search it on Youtube.
It's NG+ apparently though.

which is more impressive since everything has higher hp

[Senki]

Originally posted by Yagger:

Originally posted by JaggSauce:

i don't know who that is, and i can say for sure he ain't making them work even half as well as katanas. i don't even need to see video evidence, this is just fact.

he's the single greatest pvper due to his insane adaptability , and as stated above, ultragreatswords when used you know, not stupidly , can easily take down bosses and players.

bosses can be taken down easily by lvl 1 characters if you know what you're doing too. The point is it should be balanced around the average playerbase not the top 1% that already mastered the game.