Sites of grace guidance useless

[cheezy squeezy]

So the grace that points you in the direction of the main objective doesn't seem that useful. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong but I just beat Rennala and had no idea where to go, the guidance from the sites of grace point in the same direction they did before (back to the academy which I just completed). I looked up where to go and kinda have an idea but really don't like playing the game like this, am I doing something wrong?

[HighLanderPony]

Nah, they're more of a suggestion than real guidance. Try talking to some NPCs at the roundtable, maybe they'll clue you in on things.

[Enderspoons]

The grace's guidance points you toward the nearest major boss (e.g. most of the graces in Weeping Peninsula point toward Leonine Misbegotten and most of the graces in Limgrave point toward Godrick) not toward the main quest. It just so happens that those two things line up for most of the first half of the playthrough.

[Toad]

You can't just use the Guidance of Grace on its own, you have to also actually talk to people, especially Gideon Ofnir. Melina tells you to take her to the Erdtree, so you should try moving in that direction.

[James]

Just go anywhere you haven't been and kill everything. This isn't really a thinking mans game. Just explore and kill.

[Xengre]

Are you sure it pointed back to the academy? Did you try a site of graces "past the academy"? Perhaps it might have pointed further north to the Altus Plains?

[HighLanderPony]

Originally posted by Enderspoons:

The grace's guidance points you toward the nearest major boss (e.g. most of the graces in Weeping Peninsula point toward Leonine Misbegotten and most of the graces in Limgrave point toward Godrick) not toward the main quest. It just so happens that those two things line up for most of the first half of the playthrough.

My beef with this is that once you've done what they pointed you towards, they don't disappear or appear as "done".

[Beer Expert 420]

What I did was I had the fextralife interactive map out on second monitor and I just ran around picking up all the items and killing all bosses, but somehow missed all NPC quests.

[HighLanderPony]

Originally posted by Beer Expert 420:

What I did was I had the fextralife interactive map out on second monitor and I just ran around picking up all the items and killing all bosses, but somehow missed all NPC quests.

"Somehow."
*whisper* Maybe because it's badly designed?

[Beer Expert 420]

Originally posted by HighLanderPony:

Originally posted by Beer Expert 420:

What I did was I had the fextralife interactive map out on second monitor and I just ran around picking up all the items and killing all bosses, but somehow missed all NPC quests.

"Somehow."
*whisper* Maybe because it's badly designed?

Nah I just need to git better on the next playthrough.

[HighLanderPony]

Originally posted by Beer Expert 420:

Originally posted by HighLanderPony:

"Somehow."
*whisper* Maybe because it's badly designed?

Nah I just need to git better on the next playthrough.

Funny how the git gud narrative got to you. It's ok to blame the game when it's bad.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by HighLanderPony:

Originally posted by Beer Expert 420:

What I did was I had the fextralife interactive map out on second monitor and I just ran around picking up all the items and killing all bosses, but somehow missed all NPC quests.

"Somehow."
*whisper* Maybe because it's badly designed?

No. You guys were already given the answer you just didn't notice due to tunnel vision.

Originally posted by Xengre:

Are you sure it pointed back to the academy? Did you try a site of graces "past the academy"? Perhaps it might have pointed further north to the Altus Plains?

If you were to go to a prior Site of Graces prior to the academy it will still point north but it is actually going "past" the academy. If you were to go to the tree sentinel just outside tutorial zone it will still point like it did because it shows from current closest site of graces to where you need to go. It merely looks like it isn't updated but it is. Atlus plains is north of the academy up the mountains (3 routes to enter). However, if you go past it then you will find it pointing backwards but this isn't to the academy. There is Radahn's fight at Caelid's Redmanes Castle...

[HighLanderPony]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by HighLanderPony:

"Somehow."
*whisper* Maybe because it's badly designed?

No. You guys were already given the answer you just didn't notice due to tunnel vision.

Originally posted by Xengre:

Are you sure it pointed back to the academy? Did you try a site of graces "past the academy"? Perhaps it might have pointed further north to the Altus Plains?

If you were to go to a prior Site of Graces prior to the academy it will still point north but it is actually going "past" the academy. If you were to go to the tree sentinel just outside tutorial zone it will still point like it did because it shows from current closest site of graces to where you need to go. It merely looks like it isn't updated but it is. Atlus plains is north of the academy up the mountains (3 routes to enter). However, if you go past it then you will find it pointing backwards but this isn't to the academy. There is Radahn's fight at Caelid's Redmanes Castle...

And you didn't notice the part where I said that the guide points that are made irrelevant by you already doing what needed to be done there NOT changing or disappearing is confusing and thus badly done.

I still have the guidance pointing at the Misbegotten in the castle in the Peninsula... about 100 hours after clearing it.

[Spooky]

Originally posted by HighLanderPony:

Originally posted by Beer Expert 420:

What I did was I had the fextralife interactive map out on second monitor and I just ran around picking up all the items and killing all bosses, but somehow missed all NPC quests.

"Somehow."
*whisper* Maybe because it's badly designed?

like in old cRPG, where the "quest" giver was some tavern keeper? not rly .. just the new generation of "no brainer video games with all the flashy hints, which shows the no brainer where to go .."

[HighLanderPony]

Originally posted by Spooky:

Originally posted by HighLanderPony:

"Somehow."
*whisper* Maybe because it's badly designed?

like in old cRPG, where the "quest" giver was some tavern keeper? not rly .. just the new generation of "no brainer video games with all the flashy hints, which shows the no brainer where to go .."

Oh, instead you've the White Mask dude telling you what to do. It's just more obscure and has no exact marker. Potayto, potahto.

Let me forward you to the people who try to do the "quests" with a guide and still mess up because of the design.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by HighLanderPony:

Originally posted by Xengre:

No. You guys were already given the answer you just didn't notice due to tunnel vision.


If you were to go to a prior Site of Graces prior to the academy it will still point north but it is actually going "past" the academy. If you were to go to the tree sentinel just outside tutorial zone it will still point like it did because it shows from current closest site of graces to where you need to go. It merely looks like it isn't updated but it is. Atlus plains is north of the academy up the mountains (3 routes to enter). However, if you go past it then you will find it pointing backwards but this isn't to the academy. There is Radahn's fight at Caelid's Redmanes Castle...

And you didn't notice the part where I said that the guide points that are made irrelevant by you already doing what needed to be done there NOT changing or disappearing is confusing and thus badly done.

I still have the guidance pointing at the Misbegotten in the castle in the Peninsula... about 100 hours after clearing it.

You're right. My mistake. I could have sworn it went away and it was not doing that but I just got on and checked and it does point there for me as well.

It isn't a big deal though since it should be pretty straight forward to be like "oh, yeah, I totally cleared that dungeon on the peninsula" or "the academy". It shows the game could clearly use certain QoL polish, but I think people are excessively exaggerating it as "confusing" or "getting lost".