What gives the most generous parry window?

[Quadsword]

Buckler, carian retaliation, or golden parry?

Also, if you put carian retaliation or golden parry on the buckler, does it lose its unique parry animation? I'm assuming the effects of those ashes of war don't stack with the buckler's larger parry window, or that'd be pretty broken.

[j]

According to the wiki golden and carian have the most active frames and they're just as fast as the buckler regardless of animation

[Dragonirian]

Golden parry as far as I know.
Buckler does lose the animation and swaps it to the specific parry art animation.
They don't stack.

[ReBootXD]

I don’t think Golden Parry affects the parry window, just makes it possible to parry from further away. I haven’t looked up anything about it though so I may be wrong

[the fakir]

Originally posted by ReBootXD:

I don’t think Golden Parry affects the parry window, just makes it possible to parry from further away. I haven’t looked up anything about it though so I may be wrong

if it increases the size of the parry "hitbox" it's a very big thing indeed. I always use it because of that.

[ReBootXD]

Originally posted by Shifty Thief:

Originally posted by ReBootXD:

I don’t think Golden Parry affects the parry window, just makes it possible to parry from further away. I haven’t looked up anything about it though so I may be wrong

if it increases the size of the parry "hitbox" it's a very big thing indeed. I always use it because of that.

It’s strong yes, but I’m just not sure it makes landing a parry any easier. Pretty sure timing is the same with or without the Golden Parry

[Ash]

Golden Parry and Carian Retaliation out of all parry skills.
But buckler parry still techically the "best" cuz it has less startup frames.
Edit: actually just checked golden parry and a carian retaliation if put on a small shield are better than buckler parry. It has 3 more parry frames.

[Ghost]

Carian retaliation is the best, golden parry has a larger area but you'll only get so many parries out of it

[j]

This video is pretty concise and matches the wiki info: https://youtu.be/qOEcWX6cWeo
Buckler, Golden Parry and Carian Retaliation all have the shortest start up frames (8).
Golden parry and Carian have 3 more active frames than buckler (14 vs 11). It doesn't matter what shield type you use so no reason not to put them on med shields.
Basically unless FP is a concern there's no reason to use a buckler over the ashes.

[Ash]

Originally posted by jim:

It doesn't matter what shield type you use so no reason not to put them on med shields.

Wow, I actually didn't knew this. Thx.

[Drake Ravenwolf]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789660535
has a parry section - that section is not my own work but helps visualize the differences

[Onni]

Golden parry is the best one. It has same frames as buckler except it also has more range and a easier to land parry even though they have the same frames.