best class for archer build?

[NPC]

I want to make an archer character. What class should i do?

[Yawndreas]

bows are a bit of a joke in elden ring, but the light bows allow for more maneuverability making them more valuable dps wise. The Black bow is the only decent late game bow due to the firing speed of a light bow while retaining longbow damage and range. Starting out, samurai is the best class because it starts with a long bow, but thief with the short bow and a buckler is also a good choice. the light bows are best used with status arrows due to high fire rate.

check out the harp bow in shaded castle, you can be a lvl 1 wretch and have the best style too!

[fauxpas]

King Geedorah님이 먼저 게시:

fauxpas님이 먼저 게시:

Wretch ... always a wretch.

never wretch. Unless you do it just cause you like it thats cool. but a lot of people are under the impression that wretch is best for min maxing and thats pretty much always wrong.

It was meant to be tongue in cheek but I am a card carrying member of the bonk bonk club. 😉

[Drake Ravenwolf]

fauxpas님이 먼저 게시:

King Geedorah님이 먼저 게시:

never wretch. Unless you do it just cause you like it thats cool. but a lot of people are under the impression that wretch is best for min maxing and thats pretty much always wrong.

It was meant to be tongue in cheek but I am a card carrying member of the bonk bonk club. 😉

Wretch is great for testing things with but he's a jack of all trades, master of none sort

[fauxpas]

Drake Ravenwolf님이 먼저 게시:

fauxpas님이 먼저 게시:

It was meant to be tongue in cheek but I am a card carrying member of the bonk bonk club. 😉

Wretch is great for testing things with but he's a jack of all trades, master of none sort

I love the fact I start at first level honestly, getting to entertain myself by saying "bonk" when I leap attack a random baddie until I get my first lordsworn straight sword as a drop and get enough str to start using great swords is just gravy.

[Drake Ravenwolf]

fauxpas님이 먼저 게시:

Drake Ravenwolf님이 먼저 게시:

Wretch is great for testing things with but he's a jack of all trades, master of none sort

I love the fact I start at first level honestly, getting to entertain myself by saying "bonk" when I leap attack a random baddie until I get my first lordsworn straight sword as a drop and get enough str to start using great swords is just gravy.

but Wretch can never go lower than 10, even in stats that do nothing for your current build

[Malkavian]

None because bows are rubbish.

Create a Mage his basic skill does more damage than Mighty Shot, chases enemies and you don't have to spend on arrows

[fauxpas]

Drake Ravenwolf님이 먼저 게시:

fauxpas님이 먼저 게시:

I love the fact I start at first level honestly, getting to entertain myself by saying "bonk" when I leap attack a random baddie until I get my first lordsworn straight sword as a drop and get enough str to start using great swords is just gravy.

but Wretch can never go lower than 10, even in stats that do nothing for your current build

I agree, but I'd spend my first few levels getting tens in the low stats even if they were wasted points since it would gnaw on my soul otherwise.


I agree from a min-max perspective with what everyone has said, my original post was meant as a tongue in cheek comment, even if I personally enjoy the class for different reasons.

[Heimdall313]

Drake Ravenwolf님이 먼저 게시:

cat님이 먼저 게시:

ok but lets say i want to start with a bow build. but maybe later i want to change it to a magic build, or great sword? is there a class thats best for this kind of changing up?

There are esentially just three classes that are best for minmaxing;
Hero - for anything NOT using INT/FTH (heck really anything just not using FP)
Astrologer for anything using INT, including INT AND FTH
Prophet for anything using FTH but NOT INT

You are free to run the numbers yourself but I've done a lot of number crunching and can even show you my work if you want :-P

No that sounds reasonable lol.

I did Str/Faith with a Hero but my FP consumption is pretty low, I'm just tossing a flame sling or throwing sand here and there, axe doing 90% of the work. Order's Blade is a bit draining but it's doing pretty good work.

Definitely want to try and build Int+Faith "full mage" astrologer though.

[DS: Artorias of the Abyss (PS3)]

Wretch/samurai

[13R0KEN]

well whatever class you use be sure to pick up the black bow, it's got the same dodge attack/jump attack as a light bow which is invaluable in fights

good luck robin hood

[Drake Ravenwolf]

Heimdall313님이 먼저 게시:

Drake Ravenwolf님이 먼저 게시:

There are esentially just three classes that are best for minmaxing;
Hero - for anything NOT using INT/FTH (heck really anything just not using FP)
Astrologer for anything using INT, including INT AND FTH
Prophet for anything using FTH but NOT INT

You are free to run the numbers yourself but I've done a lot of number crunching and can even show you my work if you want :-P

No that sounds reasonable lol.

I did Str/Faith with a Hero but my FP consumption is pretty low, I'm just tossing a flame sling or throwing sand here and there, axe doing 90% of the work. Order's Blade is a bit draining but it's doing pretty good work.

Definitely want to try and build Int+Faith "full mage" astrologer though.

The greatest life hack for a Hero is using a Cerulean Hidden Tear and a Faith Knot in your physick so you can do all the same rot/ice breaths on bosses without investing even one in mind or faith :)

[Darkside99x]

Honestly was kinda disappointed with archery here.

Was kind of hopeful when they added a stealth mechanic and open world that it would at last be more than an afterthought.

[Heimdall313]

Shortbow Barrage with bone arrow status bombs stuff, I am quite entertained with Bandit starting gear. Now if I can just figure out a non-katana weapon for it, I'm not weeb enough.

Darkside99x님이 먼저 게시:

Honestly was kinda disappointed with archery here.

Was kind of hopeful when they added a stealth mechanic and open world that it would at last be more than an afterthought.

Yeah but we always have Skyrim for the nuclear stealth archer build lol.

Drake Ravenwolf님이 먼저 게시:

Heimdall313님이 먼저 게시:

No that sounds reasonable lol.

I did Str/Faith with a Hero but my FP consumption is pretty low, I'm just tossing a flame sling or throwing sand here and there, axe doing 90% of the work. Order's Blade is a bit draining but it's doing pretty good work.

Definitely want to try and build Int+Faith "full mage" astrologer though.

The greatest life hack for a Hero is using a Cerulean Hidden Tear and a Faith Knot in your physick so you can do all the same rot/ice breaths on bosses without investing even one in mind or faith :)

I haven't used the physick at all but I'll look into that one

[Douchebag Extraordinaire]

Longbow on Samurai has Mighty Shot WA, which is great for the beginning of the game when ammo is still scarce (ditto with thin bones), so you can potentially squeeze the most out of each arrow, especially considering that starting FP is always crud.

Once you start accumulating enough arrows and mats to not worry about ammo efficiency, cranking up status effects through fast firing, through natural and WA like Barrage, will always be a good way to supplement close range combat.

Good kiting skills is great in the open world portion of the game but you'll need to diversify in dungeons. A good cheese melee or even a shield and spear combo and then some back up throwing knives to finish off enemies/bosses at range would keep you comfortable.

[Deykar]

Bows scaling sucks. I would lvl strength for great bows and arcane for the serpent bow which helps you to apply status. FromSoft made bows very gimmicky. Greatbows at least have knock back which allows you to throw enemies of platforms and die to gravity.