we need way more max upgrade materials....

[Buurt]

they give you everything to change your char and try different builds and stuff like that, but on one build like str/faith I already wanna test and play with like 20+ different weapons, most of them somber, I have to go to NG+10 or something to even have to change to play half of those weapon on max level, its just annoying, how would you even do more than 1 build on 1 char when you cant max upgrade close to enough weapons.

How save is it to spawn in max upgrade materials with cheat engine ? this system is just so annoying.

[DeuceBane]

the game gives you ways to change course, doesnt mean its intended that it opens evertying up to you. Not to mention I think theres like 10-12 larval tears? maybe im wrong. But you got 5 respecs in ds3. While you certainly get many more here, I think youre wrong to assume youre meant to be able to swap between "builds" all you want. Not to mention, espeically with +24 vs +25, its not that big a deal man, just use the +24.

The respeccing is there so that you can test and experiement BEFORE committing, or to fix a flat out mistake youve made with your character.

I hear what youre saying, I am not going to argue against more somber stones in a playthrough, but I dont know if it should just be free for all style. Still want to have that balance there, so that there is "permanence" to your character, so you have to commit. Part of the long term fun of these games, and many ARPGs I would argue, is falling in and out with playstyles and characters. IMO.

[Homeless.]

There is 17 larvals and about 8 sombers, I agree it should be unlimited so we can experiment

[Drukaris]

yeah its so weird how they did not tailor the game to your personal needs only

[DeuceBane]

Originally posted by Homeless.:

There is 17 larvals and about 8 sombers, I agree it should be unlimited so we can experiment

"so we can experiment" or "so i can make 1 character, and then have all the characters ill ever want".

its good for the game when people make characters.

[Indure]

You can buy all upgrading materials from vendors except for the dragon versions +10/+25, which usually won't dramatically affect the final weapon performance of the weapon. Occasionally a weapon will go into a higher scaling at max level but it is rare.

[Jester]

While I do agree that there's need to be more max out materials but I think it's perfectly fine to try things out with getting it to +9 or +24 with just purchasable materials alone and only upgrade to max when you're sure on something. They do need more Ancient materials but I'm just saying you don't need to specifically max out weapons to try it out lol.

[mpcgannon]

Originally posted by King Geedorah:

Originally posted by Homeless.:

There is 17 larvals and about 8 sombers, I agree it should be unlimited so we can experiment

"so we can experiment" or "so i can make 1 character, and then have all the characters ill ever want".

its good for the game when people make characters.

Trying to tell people how to play? Some people have families, demanding jobs, a vibrant social life, or anything. Not everyone can sink a hundred hours into each character.
I want free repecs at grace. No matter what your build, being able to change it to try that sweet reward from the dungeon, sounds amazing.

[oprah winfrey]

You don't need your weapon to be maxed out to play with it and experiment.

[DeuceBane]

Originally posted by mpcgannon:

Originally posted by King Geedorah:

"so we can experiment" or "so i can make 1 character, and then have all the characters ill ever want".

its good for the game when people make characters.

Trying to tell people how to play? Some people have families, demanding jobs, a vibrant social life, or anything. Not everyone can sink a hundred hours into each character.
I want free repecs at grace. No matter what your build, being able to change it to try that sweet reward from the dungeon, sounds amazing.

bro, if you dont want to put the time in, then dont lol go level up your vibrant social life lmao... stop asking developers to provide in-game shortcuts to the version of the game you want. Download a fkin save file from the internet. go get cheat engine. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lol

[Homeless.]

Originally posted by King Geedorah:

Originally posted by Homeless.:

There is 17 larvals and about 8 sombers, I agree it should be unlimited so we can experiment

"so we can experiment" or "so i can make 1 character, and then have all the characters ill ever want".

its good for the game when people make characters.

i dont see the issue in that

[Drukaris]

Originally posted by Homeless.:

Originally posted by King Geedorah:

"so we can experiment" or "so i can make 1 character, and then have all the characters ill ever want".

its good for the game when people make characters.

i dont see the issue in that

less multiplayer activity at lower levels would be one for example

[Buntkreuz]

Originally posted by King Geedorah:

Originally posted by Homeless.:

There is 17 larvals and about 8 sombers, I agree it should be unlimited so we can experiment

"so we can experiment" or "so i can make 1 character, and then have all the characters ill ever want".

its good for the game when people make characters.

How?
In fact it isnt.
Back in the older Souls Games you were actually limited due to issues with storing the data.
We have the technology now, doesnt mean we have to necessarily use it.
I agree that respeccing especially in an open world game should be unlimited and thus the final stones you need to buff weapons should be too.
Theres literally no reason not to.

[DeuceBane]

Originally posted by Drukaris:

Originally posted by Homeless.:

i dont see the issue in that

less multiplayer activity at lower levels would be one for example

exactly.

The real issue here is that people continue to fail to understand that these are design decisions. You think FROM is unaware that they COULD give you more? They CHOOSE not to give you more. they do that again and again. Why? Because building your character loses all its weight when you take away ALL the consequences. It SHOULD feel like a decision to use an ancient stone, or to assign a stat point. Many many rpgs have taken similar stances in the past, there is something to be said of character permanence, and its very much in-line with a lot of fromsoft's design philosophy imo. Im not saying theeres something wrong with wanting infinite respec or more stones, im saying not everyone wants it, and FROM didnt put that in because they didnt want it in.

[AnInfiniteArc]

What's the difference between a +9 weapon and a +10 weapon that you think is getting in the way of what you want to do?

I agree that it would be nice if something dropped or sold Ancient Dragon smithing stones, but being able to max out 8 somber weapons per playthrough really does feel like enough.

[DeuceBane]

Originally posted by Argentum:

Originally posted by King Geedorah:

"so we can experiment" or "so i can make 1 character, and then have all the characters ill ever want".

its good for the game when people make characters.

How?
In fact it isnt.
Back in the older Souls Games you were actually limited due to issues with storing the data.
We have the technology now, doesnt mean we have to necessarily use it.
I agree that respeccing especially in an open world game should be unlimited and thus the final stones you need to buff weapons should be too.
Theres literally no reason not to.

oh ok theres literally no reason not to. Gee youd think FROMSOFT woulda realized that many many games ago. how could they be so stupid or careless?

You know Bloodborne is a game of the year title with NO respec and 1 or 2 "slab" equivelants per ng cycle?