Greatest (open world*) rpg ever made?

[Biebs 3D]

I'm 20h in on the first "map". Haven't reached the first castle with the first boss but the possibilities seem endless. And everything makes so much sense (items/lore). Almost like every little item, mechanic etc. is so carefully designed.

[QAOS]

if this is your first RPG ever, or you played only "Soulsborne" series, then yeah, it is the Best RPG ever made...
But if you played real RPG games like Fallout 1-2, Planescape Torment, MOTB, KOTOR 2, Bloodlines, Disco Elysium... nah... not even close to being "the Best RPG ever made".

[Biebs 3D]

QAOSbringer eredeti hozzászólása:

if this is your first RPG ever, or you played only "Soulsborne" series, then yeah, it is the Best RPG ever made...
But if you played real RPG games like Fallout 1-2, Planescape Torment, MOTB, KOTOR 2, Bloodlines, Disco Elysium... nah... not even close to being "the Best RPG ever made".

Best open world rpg then.

[logick]

kkmmnn eredeti hozzászólása:

ultsnv eredeti hozzászólása:

These people are generally huge losers, and instead of immersing themselves in something that’s fun they would rather bicker and throw tantrums on steam forums… sad honestly

Is it really that hard to imagine not everyone enjoys what you enjoy? You enjoy it, great. Yet here you are instead of immersing yourself in something that's fun. Sad, honestly.

[TripSin]

Not even close. At all. Unless I guess if you've played very few RPGs.

It's good that you're liking the first 20 hours though because you're going to be seeing the same enemies and assets used again over and over. They'll just have 100x more HP and damage at the end zones. Even MMORPGs will bother to give reused enemies like a different color or something, but FromSoft just gives you exactly the same thing over and over but with more HP and damage numbers.

Story and characters are a snore fest. It's the same, now-tired tropes and themes they've done in every other Souls games. I haven't even finished the playthrough and already I'm bored of the open world. It feels more like a chore than exciting to get through, like it feels big just for the sake of being big without interesting mechanics or gameplay.

[Biebs 3D]

TripSin eredeti hozzászólása:

Not even close. At all. Unless I guess if you've played very few RPGs.

It's good that you're liking the first 20 hours though because you're going to be seeing the same enemies and assets used again over and over. They'll just have 100x more HP and damage at the end zones. Even MMORPGs will bother to give reused enemies like a different color or something, but FromSoft just gives you exactly the same thing over and over but with more HP and damage numbers.

Story and characters are a snore fest. It's the same, now-tired tropes and themes they've done in every other Souls games. I haven't even finished the playthrough and already I'm bored of the open world. It feels more like a chore than exciting to get through, like it feels big just for the sake of being big without interesting mechanics or gameplay.

Opinion might change yes.

[Ben]

QAOSbringer eredeti hozzászólása:

if this is your first RPG ever, or you played only "Soulsborne" series, then yeah, it is the Best RPG ever made...
But if you played real RPG games like Fallout 1-2, Planescape Torment, MOTB, KOTOR 2, Bloodlines, Disco Elysium... nah... not even close to being "the Best RPG ever made".

"Real" RPG games... lol
Elden Ring is an action JRPG. The games you list are from another genre.

[BlackSunEmpire]

Biebs 3D eredeti hozzászólása:

BlackSunEmpire eredeti hozzászólása:

Yes swimming and climbing is in a lot of other open world games.

And gliding doesnt only look cool, its also a lot of fun to do in Horizon: FW and BOTW.

I also love Dark Souls 3. But just copy and pasting DS3 onto a larger playingfield doesnt necessarily make the gameplay better. I would even say all it does is thin out the gameplay, like putting additional water into your coca cola. It stretches out the interesting parts of the game (Legacy Dungeons and main Bossfights) and adds uninteresting filler material (copy and paste mini dungeons, mini bosses and a lot of empty space ) inbetween.

I know what you mean with filler, the mini bosses etc. But every other open world game is a sleepfest compared to a "bloated" dark souls (imo). Elden ring might feel bloated if you compare it to bloodborne or dark souls, but it's still ten times better than let's say horizon.

Im not so sure.
For me most open world games feel equaly boring to play.
Filling up your coca cola with a lot of additional water to have more of it is just not a good concept. It tastes shallow afterwards, less intense.

Open worlds are mostly a marketing scam to trick people into thinking "bigger is always better" , when in reality its rather "wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle".

"quality over quantity" is a way better slogan for good games.

[TripSin]

Biebs 3D eredeti hozzászólása:

TripSin eredeti hozzászólása:

Not even close. At all. Unless I guess if you've played very few RPGs.

It's good that you're liking the first 20 hours though because you're going to be seeing the same enemies and assets used again over and over. They'll just have 100x more HP and damage at the end zones. Even MMORPGs will bother to give reused enemies like a different color or something, but FromSoft just gives you exactly the same thing over and over but with more HP and damage numbers.

Story and characters are a snore fest. It's the same, now-tired tropes and themes they've done in every other Souls games. I haven't even finished the playthrough and already I'm bored of the open world. It feels more like a chore than exciting to get through, like it feels big just for the sake of being big without interesting mechanics or gameplay.

Opinion might change yes.

But maybe you will continue to enjoy it. I think I saw some person on like their 7th playthrough already or something. If so, good for you. I can't say the same though lol

[Ben]

TripSin eredeti hozzászólása:

Not even close. At all. Unless I guess if you've played very few RPGs.

It's good that you're liking the first 20 hours though because you're going to be seeing the same enemies and assets used again over and over. They'll just have 100x more HP and damage at the end zones. Even MMORPGs will bother to give reused enemies like a different color or something, but FromSoft just gives you exactly the same thing over and over but with more HP and damage numbers.

Story and characters are a snore fest. It's the same, now-tired tropes and themes they've done in every other Souls games. I haven't even finished the playthrough and already I'm bored of the open world. It feels more like a chore than exciting to get through, like it feels big just for the sake of being big without interesting mechanics or gameplay.

Funny you say that when Elden Ring is the action RPG which has the widest variety in enemies / movesets without any DLC. You're also lying when you say they don't bother to give different colors. Because... Well they actually do, and do much more, enemies have different armors sets, different weapon sets, different type of attacks (sacred, fire, thunder, exalted, etc.), etc. The diversity in this game is HUGE lol. I guess you didn't notice that the 4 lava dragons all had different move sets. Or maybe you didn't even meet a single one...

Are you so mad you are unable to finish the game that you ended up hating it or what ?

[Biebs 3D]

BlackSunEmpire eredeti hozzászólása:

"quality over quantity" is a way better slogan for good games.

Quality over quanity is a good argument but i still see the old quality everywhere in elden ring. To me it's the same quality in a bigger and wider package. Some of the usual *door from behind* moments just happen later, on a bigger scale. Not the same compression in every little corner, but it still feels like every rock is there for a reason. They made the best open world rpg by using the test run formula (bloodborne, ds3). But you can't compare it to the non-open world FS titles. That's true. I have bloodborne and ds3 mapped in my head, same as super metroid. Ask me about some item, i can tell you where or when. That won't happen with elden ring(?)

[QAOS]

Ben eredeti hozzászólása:

QAOSbringer eredeti hozzászólása:

if this is your first RPG ever, or you played only "Soulsborne" series, then yeah, it is the Best RPG ever made...
But if you played real RPG games like Fallout 1-2, Planescape Torment, MOTB, KOTOR 2, Bloodlines, Disco Elysium... nah... not even close to being "the Best RPG ever made".

"Real" RPG games... lol
Elden Ring is an action JRPG. The games you list are from another genre.

a RPG is still a RPG. It doesn't matter if it is made in Japan, China, USA or UK. It's all RPG. And being a really good RPG doesn't make a game "from another genre".

[Ben]

QAOSbringer eredeti hozzászólása:

Ben eredeti hozzászólása:

"Real" RPG games... lol
Elden Ring is an action JRPG. The games you list are from another genre.

a RPG is still a RPG. It doesn't matter if it is made in Japan, China, USA or UK. It's all RPG. And being a really good RPG doesn't make a game "from another genre".

Oh, I caught a good one there. You're saying that Final Fantasy 3 and The Witcher are the same genre ?

[landmass]

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kkmmnn eredeti hozzászólása:

Is it really that hard to imagine not everyone enjoys what you enjoy? You enjoy it, great. Yet here you are instead of immersing yourself in something that's fun. Sad, honestly.

Nope, not at all. I come here to discuss the game I like. Wasn’t at home and couldn’t play, checked forums. I own hundreds of games across tons of platforms, I’ve never once stayed around a forum to complain about a game I didn’t enjoy. That behavior is just bizarre to me…

[Biebs 3D]

First true open world metroidvania. That's how i would describe elden ring in a nutshell. Something i'm already mapping via pure head cinema. :P

[Yo Homie]

How is this open world? You literally cannot travel to half the areas without having some kind of restriction lmao Just because the areas are big doesn't mean its open world. How many times have you died to fall damage while exploring, You still travel in one single direction to progress that isn't open world. Think for yourselves