Nioh 2 has better combat and bosses….

[Fraktal]

I did refund the game, but from little playtime I had, and watching streamers, Nioh 2 combat wise wins hands down.

I might pick this back up on a sale and after UW is added.

[Senki]

İlk olarak lowly criminal tarafından gönderildi:

lmao trying to compare Elden Ring to Team Ninja games

From games were specifically built for people who got filtered from Team Ninja games like Ninja Gaiden.

From slowed the combat way down, made it super slow for the Soulsborne casuals, sprinkled save points throughout the game for them, etc.

Of course Nioh 2 is better in terms of combat, From games are specifically engineered to be super simple. They have almost 0 mechanics and tend to be mechanically some of the simplest games in terms of combat.

There's a reason games like Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring sold 10 million+ units. They are mainsteam games made for mainstream casuals. Soulsborne casuals.

steam forums user try not to be a cringe elitist who thinks he's a better person because he likes a harder game challenge (impossible)

There will always be bigger fish to fry. Plenty of games are significantly harder than Nioh 2 too. Maybe you should go play those before someone starts making fun of you too.

[tallgeese]

What are you talking about? So confusing.

I've played all the hard games, that's how I know From games are easy. I totally am an elitist when it comes to Soulsborne casuals. They gatekeep and say stupid stuff like "git gud" instead of being constructive. Taste of their own medicine. Feels damn good, bro.

[Frikcha]

unironically it does

thank you for reminding me I never finished Nioh 1

[PangarÉ404]

İlk olarak BlackSunEmpire tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak PangarÉ404 tarafından gönderildi:

Man, is actully nice you said something like that, nioh 2 is a better game as well, and is more skillfull them elden ring. Elden ring have the worst bosses of the souls series, and the most terrifing boss fight design, with unscapable atacks, and unpunishible billion attacks combos for the bosses. The game is not ment do be played, is actully design to the summons played for you, and of course, this is the only souls game who have the most disgracefull final boss, elden beast, who needs to be deleted of this game for resolve some of the disgustin problens this game have. And of course, nioh is more fun to play, and mores rewarding, er dont have that, because you fight some boss, and after seing how bad design the fight is, you never want to come back and fight him.

I wouldnt go as far.
I personaly like Elden Ring after having it played for 68 hours or so.

Is it a perfect game, a masterpiece ? - No.
But it is for sure a lot of fun.

My only real gripe gameplaywise is that they didnt took 1-2 extra years to fix the technical issues and add more content in the late game areas/ 2nd half of the game.

i think the quota of marterpiece games of fromsoft is alread reached with sekiro. Here in er, they actully tried some more commercial instead, at least i see more like this way. But the 'fun zone' not get me in this game. I felt tired in leyndel in my first playthrough already, of all the repetition and copy and paste bosses (duo or not), repeating in every dungeon, and i didint like the spirit summon thing, so i played all solo, and could see how bad the design is, and pvp as well, its all strangly bad, the boss fight design, the hitboxes, the balances. Of course we have every one diferent experiences, but the game is bad design, being a fromsoft game or not.

[Pedro]

NIOH games are mostly unfair and boring unless you cheese using magic. Not a fan. Own both games and just finished the first one.

[tallgeese]

İlk olarak Pedro tarafından gönderildi:

NIOH games are mostly unfair and boring unless you cheese using magic. Not a fan. Own both games and just finished the first one.

Nah that's just you being a Soulsborne casual facing an actual challenge from a dev who has been making tough games since the before the 2000s. I cleared both games without using any magic.

[Witcher]

İlk olarak Pedro tarafından gönderildi:

NIOH games are mostly unfair and boring unless you cheese using magic. Not a fan. Own both games and just finished the first one.

Incorrect, you can't cheese Nioh bosses except maybe head shot to stagger them at the start but this only takes < 5% of their HP. There's no sneak attack like Sekiro or ER which takes > 10% of bosses HP, and can kill normal enemies.

[Lu2]

İlk olarak Witcher tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Pedro tarafından gönderildi:

NIOH games are mostly unfair and boring unless you cheese using magic. Not a fan. Own both games and just finished the first one.

Incorrect, you can't cheese Nioh bosses except maybe head shot to stagger them at the start but this only takes < 5% of their HP. There's no sneak attack like Sekiro or ER which takes > 10% of bosses HP, and can kill normal enemies.

you can chesse bosses a lot wtf . just deplete their yokai ki and make them punching bag or exploit npc ai like date with varrious skills that knock them on ground and make them defendless

[NisseDood]

Ds1,ds2 and Nioh 2 are only good souls games because they got friendly cats.

[Witcher]

İlk olarak Lu2 tarafından gönderildi:

you can chesse bosses a lot wtf . just deplete their yokai ki and make them punching bag or exploit npc ai like date with varrious skills that knock them on ground and make them defendless

Only in Nioh 2 using Burst Counter against a yokai boss.

[I-Chi]

Nioh 1 had the Living Weapon and other one-shot builds which trivialized many boss fights. Players would just copy builds from the Internet and 'beat' the game that way.

The devs did a better job of balancing things in Nioh 2. There's still the fist weapon though which many have used to stunlock / break enemy ki easily. I've seen players who relied on that as a crutch, and get super salty in the Depths when that strat no longer worked as well.

[NisseDood]

İlk olarak Witcher tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Lu2 tarafından gönderildi:

you can chesse bosses a lot wtf . just deplete their yokai ki and make them punching bag or exploit npc ai like date with varrious skills that knock them on ground and make them defendless

Only in Nioh 2 using Burst Counter against a yokai boss.

Nioh 1 is easier to cheese with living weapon.

[Witcher]

İlk olarak NisseDood tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Witcher tarafından gönderildi:

Only in Nioh 2 using Burst Counter against a yokai boss.

Nioh 1 is easier to cheese with living weapon.

Which is why Yokai form was seriously nerfed in Nioh 2.

[CourtesyFlush09]

İlk olarak Witcher tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Lu2 tarafından gönderildi:

you can chesse bosses a lot wtf . just deplete their yokai ki and make them punching bag or exploit npc ai like date with varrious skills that knock them on ground and make them defendless

Only in Nioh 2 using Burst Counter against a yokai boss.

Burst Counters were super satisfying to pull off. And it was really cool how all 3 yokai forms had different timings for them. You don't get that kind of variety or depth in ER.

[Witcher]

İlk olarak CourtesyFlush90 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Witcher tarafından gönderildi:

Only in Nioh 2 using Burst Counter against a yokai boss.

Burst Counters were super satisfying to pull off. And it was really cool how all 3 yokai forms had different timings for them. You don't get that kind of variety or depth in ER.

Yes, it requires skill and timing, plus you can't spam it like RoB's skill Hence, Nioh has the most comprehensive combat mechanics.