Varre quest is not fair

[Julymorning]

Some people are overleveled in their further NG runs like me so I cant find a host to invade. Also I dont have access to internet at the moment so I cant even invade. This is mostly a single player game so it shouldnt involve mp to progress in single player.

[Odal]

thanks for the tip. I will look it up and try it out. I don't know if I still need it now that I have cheesed Niall.

[T9]

Publicado originalmente por Sgt. Flaw:

Idk it was easy for me
You don't even need to win...just get into the other world

Good to know

[LittleEtherKitty]

Publicado originalmente por Julymorning:

Some people are overleveled in their further NG runs like me so I cant find a host to invade. Also I dont have access to internet at the moment so I cant even invade. This is mostly a single player game so it shouldnt involve mp to progress in single player.

There's an npc you can invade northwest on Altus Plateau.

[Tinkuwu]

Publicado originalmente por Julymorning:

Some people are overleveled in their further NG runs like me so I cant find a host to invade. Also I dont have access to internet at the moment so I cant even invade. This is mostly a single player game so it shouldnt involve mp to progress in single player.

Alright, I'm gonna break this down for you.

Matchmaking is based off your weapon reinforcement and level.

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Summon+Range+Calculator

So if you're getting wrecked by players in an invasion, it's not because they're super powerful or anything, they're simply better than you.

This isn't a "mostly single player game", as online play has been a major part of these games since Demon's Souls, so some side quests will require online play.

Even then, there is a way to do it while offline, and someone already made a guide on how to do it offline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOAPS6_5og0

[Icedfate]

not sure if this has been said already, but varre's quest requiring you to invade 3 players. . you can just invade and then immediately use the finger severer to leave and still get credit for it.

also, there's an NPC later that you can invade instead to get the credit for it if you don't want to invade players.

i suspect i'm just responding late, since this post is a year old. . .

[Evilsod]

Publicado originalmente por Tinkuwu:

Alright, I'm gonna break this down for you.

Matchmaking is based off your weapon reinforcement and level.

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Summon+Range+Calculator

So if you're getting wrecked by players in an invasion, it's not because they're super powerful or anything, they're simply better than you.

This isn't a "mostly single player game", as online play has been a major part of these games since Demon's Souls, so some side quests will require online play.

Even then, there is a way to do it while offline, and someone already made a guide on how to do it offline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOAPS6_5og0

You do realise the post you're responding to was written over a year ago? Before the offline method of completing the quest was added?

Not to mention you blatantly didn't read what he was complaining about. He wasn't getting any invasions cos he was overlevelled =/= complaining that he's getting beaten cos people must be overlevelled.

[Sephylon]

Publicado originalmente por Odal:

Publicado originalmente por Blahness:

You don't need Varre's quest to progress the game in any way. Online exclusive items / content has always been a thing in the souls games. Be thankful that this game doesn't have covenants that require you to successfully kill 30+ people in invasions / co-op depending on covenant in order to unlock equipment / spells. Varre is literally the only thing that requires you to invade.

How can you avoid Varre's quest? I am currently unable to go past Maliketh, and I would not mind getting to a better grinding place than Lenne's rise. Is that possible?
edit: I had to resort to a cheese to beat Niall!

You can also use a teleporter to get there from consecrated snow field. Just need to get past a sanguine noble that drops its set, and a walking nuke dispenser to use it.

[Polaris]

The last post of original conversation was Apr 2022, the NPC bypass was added Aug 2022. Let the necro'd thread die.

Magnus the Beast Claw (NPC bypass for Varre's invasion requirement):
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Magnus+the+Beast+Claw

Patch note history (1.06 @ August 9th, 2022):
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Patch+Notes#1.06

[Nibbie]

Publicado originalmente por Tinkuwu:

This isn't a "mostly single player game", as online play has been a major part of these games since Demon's Souls, so some side quests will require online play.

It is 100% a mostly singleplayer game. You are being absolutely absurd if you think online play makes up over 50% of any of these games. There is even a dedicated setting to turn online off entirely, and guess what? The game functions just fine with that setting on. I'm not sure if there even are any online-required side quests in any of the games (now that they changed Varre's); most if not all of the covenant items are farmable, for example, so you would need an example for this point to stand at all.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

You can do it offline against npcs >>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmfeNaVDJ50

Have fun ;-)

[Odal]

Publicado originalmente por Grim@LarkinPoe:

You can do it offline against npcs >>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmfeNaVDJ50

Have fun ;-)

You can simply do it 3 times on a row, against the same npc, at the same location?

edit: once is enough

[Polaris]

Publicado originalmente por Odal:

Publicado originalmente por Grim@LarkinPoe:

You can do it offline against npcs >>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmfeNaVDJ50

Have fun ;-)

You can simply do it 3 times on a row, against the same npc, at the same location?

His video is showing the location of Magnus the Beast Claw... the NPC I already linked to in my comment previously.

You only need to invade (not defeat) three (3) players... OR win the one (1) NPC invasion against Magnus the Beast Claw ( https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Magnus+the+Beast+Claw ) one (1) time to satisfy Varré's quest objective.

Those are your options.

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/White+Mask+Varre (Scroll down to "WHITE MASK VARRÉ QUESTLINE: HOW TO COMPLETE WHITE MASK VARRÉ'S QUEST" for details).

[Odal]

Publicado originalmente por Polaris:

Publicado originalmente por Odal:

You can simply do it 3 times on a row, against the same npc, at the same location?

His video is showing the location of Magnus the Beast Claw... the NPC I already linked to in my comment previously.

You only need to invade (not defeat) three (3) players... OR win the one (1) NPC invasion against Magnus the Beast Claw ( https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Magnus+the+Beast+Claw ) one (1) time to satisfy Varré's quest objective.

Those are your options.

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/White+Mask+Varre (Scroll down to "WHITE MASK VARRÉ QUESTLINE: HOW TO COMPLETE WHITE MASK VARRÉ'S QUEST" for details).

You were faster than my edit. Thank you anyway.

[Odal]

Publicado originalmente por Polaris:

Publicado originalmente por Odal:

You can simply do it 3 times on a row, against the same npc, at the same location?

His video is showing the location of Magnus the Beast Claw... the NPC I already linked to in my comment previously.

You only need to invade (not defeat) three (3) players... OR win the one (1) NPC invasion against Magnus the Beast Claw ( https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Magnus+the+Beast+Claw ) one (1) time to satisfy Varré's quest objective.

Those are your options.

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/White+Mask+Varre (Scroll down to "WHITE MASK VARRÉ QUESTLINE: HOW TO COMPLETE WHITE MASK VARRÉ'S QUEST" for details).

"The player does not need to defeat Magnus, or even fight at all, to progress Varre's questline. Consuming the Festering Bloody Finger 3 times (via invading him 3 times) counts for completion."
I started a new game, and went early against Magnus, but that one defeat did not count.

[Polaris]

Publicado originalmente por Odal:

Publicado originalmente por Polaris:

His video is showing the location of Magnus the Beast Claw... the NPC I already linked to in my comment previously.

You only need to invade (not defeat) three (3) players... OR win the one (1) NPC invasion against Magnus the Beast Claw ( https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Magnus+the+Beast+Claw ) one (1) time to satisfy Varré's quest objective.

Those are your options.

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/White+Mask+Varre (Scroll down to "WHITE MASK VARRÉ QUESTLINE: HOW TO COMPLETE WHITE MASK VARRÉ'S QUEST" for details).

"The player does not need to defeat Magnus, or even fight at all, to progress Varre's questline. Consuming the Festering Bloody Finger 3 times (via invading him 3 times) counts for completion."

As I already put in the very post that you quoted... you can choose to invade three (3) players and do not need to defeat them... Varré's quest only requires you invade them.

I started a new game, and went early against Magnus, but that one defeat did not count.

If you choose to go up against Magnus, you need to win once or invade three (3) times. Never said one failed invasion would be enough.