rotten breath is bugged

[Bennington]

Despite the close range or really close range, target locked or not, the rotten breath is bugged. It applies only when it wants to. Really frustrating, i am in front of the boss, on the side, target locked and the rotten breath still does not applies..

[Qubert]

Targets just like us have varies levels of resistance, some even immune.

[nfinite.recursion]

Bosses usually have to be hit twice with rotten breath for it to take effect. Some bosses are also immune to certain status effects.

[Jork]

Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:

Bosses usually have to be hit twice with rotten breath for it to take effect. Some bosses are also immune to certain status effects.

this

i use rotten breath quite a lot, you need to double breath with almost every single "tick" hitting your target

just hold your button down while casting it. if you don't have enough mana to double-breath, level up mind until you can.

i use ice breath a lot too, same thing - needs 2 breaths to proc status

the breath spells work best at medium to long range

i only ever found a handful of enemies/bosses where they didn't get the effect due to them being heavily resistant or outright immunity

[ReBootXD]

Many bosses are immune to rot,

[Jork]

Originally posted by ReBootXD:

Many bosses are immune to rot,

i wouldn't say many. there's only a handful that are immune.

i pretty much just wrapped up a completionist playthrough, the vast majority of them can be afflicted with scarlet rot. i'd start almost every boss fight by double rotten breath'ing bosses and most of them got the status inflicted.

those that were immune, i'd just frost them instead.

[ReBootXD]

Originally posted by Jork:

Originally posted by ReBootXD:

Many bosses are immune to rot,

i wouldn't say many. there's only a handful that are immune.

i pretty much just wrapped up a completionist playthrough, the vast majority of them can be afflicted with scarlet rot. i'd start almost every boss fight by double rotten breath'ing bosses and most of them got the status inflicted.

those that were immune, i'd just frost them instead.

I only use rot when I’m sunbroing so I probably don’t have an accurate sample size

[Jork]

Originally posted by ReBootXD:

Originally posted by Jork:

i wouldn't say many. there's only a handful that are immune.

i pretty much just wrapped up a completionist playthrough, the vast majority of them can be afflicted with scarlet rot. i'd start almost every boss fight by double rotten breath'ing bosses and most of them got the status inflicted.

those that were immune, i'd just frost them instead.

I only use rot when I’m sunbroing so I probably don’t have an accurate sample size

that's fair

thanks for helping people with bosses

[Yard-Dog®]

Originally posted by Mezera:

Despite the close range or really close range, target locked or not, the rotten breath is bugged. It applies only when it wants to. Really frustrating, i am in front of the boss, on the side, target locked and the rotten breath still does not applies..

I experienced this with Radahn. I'm up his ass, target-locked and everything...and I unleashed rot-breath twice in a row like this per session, and it did absolutely nothing every time.

[Jork]

Originally posted by Yard-Dog®:

Originally posted by Mezera:

Despite the close range or really close range, target locked or not, the rotten breath is bugged. It applies only when it wants to. Really frustrating, i am in front of the boss, on the side, target locked and the rotten breath still does not applies..

I experienced this with Radahn. I'm up his ass, target-locked and everything...and I unleashed rot-breath twice in a row like this per session, and it did absolutely nothing every time.

the breath spells work better when you're further away

i never use the breaths point blank after realizing it makes the spell perform poorly

get on torrent while he's tied up with npcs, then breath him from a reasonable distance

i didn't realize he was weak to rot when i fought him, my line of thinking was he already has the rot so i assumed he was immune

i used frost breath instead and was able to proc it just fine

[Yard-Dog®]

Originally posted by Jork:

Originally posted by Yard-Dog®:

I experienced this with Radahn. I'm up his ass, target-locked and everything...and I unleashed rot-breath twice in a row like this per session, and it did absolutely nothing every time.

the breath spells work better when you're further away

i never use the breaths point blank after realizing it makes the spell perform poorly

get on torrent while he's tied up with npcs, then breath him from a reasonable distance

i didn't realize he was weak to rot when i fought him, my line of thinking was he already has the rot so i assumed he was immune

i used frost breath instead and was able to proc it just fine

Hmmm...I didn't try that, because the logic makes little to no sense (you'd think being closer would make breath and rot more potent since it has less time to dissipate, no?). I'll keep that in mind for next time though for sure. Thanks much!

[SadPlatty©]

Can confirm it usually takes a double tick even with named dragon versions also - I am running around currently with two dragon seals +10 and Ice/Fire/Rot dragon breaths, and the 2 status ones only ever seem to proc after your character exhales the second time.

Well, for big enemies anyway, and this is in NG+; not sure if double seal does much for that though (it seemed to raise dmg at least, otherwise is cool just having two glowing red hands lol).

[Jork]

Originally posted by Yard-Dog®:

Originally posted by Jork:

the breath spells work better when you're further away

i never use the breaths point blank after realizing it makes the spell perform poorly

get on torrent while he's tied up with npcs, then breath him from a reasonable distance

i didn't realize he was weak to rot when i fought him, my line of thinking was he already has the rot so i assumed he was immune

i used frost breath instead and was able to proc it just fine

Hmmm...I didn't try that, because the logic makes little to no sense (you'd think being closer would make breath and rot more potent since it has less time to dissipate, no?). I'll keep that in mind for next time though for sure. Thanks much!

no problem

it's a cone-based attack, there's "damage waves" tied to certain intervals of the breath mist, and it seems like certain damage waves only activate after a certain distance

when you use breath at point blank, the "waves" don't all hit properly since it isn't being spaced out, they need distance to properly roll out and hit your target

the range is honestly quite ridiculous on all the breath spells, medium distance works best for sure. long distance is better than point blank, but ideally you want to be at medium range.

[SadPlatty©]

On point-blank not being great; I wonder if they did that so that the jumping cast would work better?

The jumping cast is usually just the one bout, but you probably get just enough distance to turn point-blank into pooling the attack on them. Could be worth testing, but that range difference is still not going to save you from someone with high poise maybe punishing you out (thinking like Ironjar aroma).

[Jork]

Originally posted by SadPlatty©:

On point-blank not being great; I wonder if they did that so that the jumping cast would work better?

The jumping cast is usually just the one bout, but you probably get just enough distance to turn point-blank into pooling the attack on them. Could be worth testing, but that range difference is still not going to save you from someone with high poise maybe punishing you out (thinking like Ironjar aroma).

i'll admit, i never bothered using the jump+hover breath spells too much, i've never run into a situation where it's needed and i find the positioning to be unoptimal and awkward.

i did get all of them though for completionist's sake.

you do raise a good point though. wouldn't surprise me if that was their line of thinking with the jumping cast breath variants.